Let's all make extermination of all carnivores everywhere our top priority for the human race then, so much harm being done, so many lives being taken!

Dude. If he wants to say meat is sexy, what's wrong with that?

How on earth can you possibly disagree with the following statement, "Lingster finds meat sexier than veggies or fruits", if it's TRUE? If you disagree with the sentiment expressed, say you disagree.

Watching you accuse him of some sort of logical flaw when he says he finds meat sexy is the real eye-roller.

The scrawniness of most vegetarians/vegans who are not also lacto-ovo is verifiable by observation, and makes sense according to the data. Apart from soy, no plant source of protein provides all essential amino acids. In contrast, animal proteins are all complete proteins. Name me a non-lacto-ovo vegetarian/vegan bodybuilder, if you can?

Let's all make extermination of all carnivores everywhere our top priority for the human race then, so much harm being done, so many lives being taken!

Dude. If he wants to say meat is sexy, what's wrong with that? How on earth can you possibly disagree with the following statement, "Lingster finds meat sexier than veggies or fruits", if it's TRUE? If you disagree with the sentiment expressed, say you disagree. Watching you accuse him of some sort of logical flaw when he says he finds meat sexy is the real eye-roller.

The scrawniness of most vegetarians/vegans who are not also lacto-ovo is verifiable by observation, and makes sense according to the data. Apart from soy, no plant source of protein provides all essential amino acids. In contrast, animal proteins are all complete proteins. Name me a non-lacto-ovo vegetarian/vegan bodybuilder, if you can?

I don't understand the thrust of your last paragraph. It's a good thing for people to be scrawny? You don't want to have to, well basically, live? Why on earth are you here??

I love it when I start fights. Let's all go Jerry Springer and start throwing chairs. (Assuming the vegetarians can lift theirs.)

It is my conclusion that the scientific evidence of tastiness outweighs his superstitious concerns about animals having rights.

If there's no God and no revealed truth, as you've argued previously, then there is surely no moral imperative that requires us to treat herbivores any better than predators treat them.

Hitl
er was a vegetarian.

Sadd
am was not a "meat-eater", he was merely a person who ate meat. He did not form a personal identity around his food preferences.

In what holy book does it say that? I assume you've watched your share of wildlife programs, i.e. the one where a big cat catches some grassland herbivore and rips it open as it bleats in agony and terror?

If there's no God and no revealed truth, as you've argued previously, then there is surely no moral imperative that requires us to treat herbivores any better than predators treat them.

Hitl
er was very much connected to his identity as a vegetarian. He actively attempted to convert others to his culinary philosophy. His identity as a vegetarian is very different than, for example, his bisexuality or homosexuality, around which he did NOT craft an identity.

Some
one other than me cited moral concerns as the root of vegetarianism. I simply find it difficult to suppress my laughter at that claim, given the name of the most famous vegetarian in history.

In my experience, people who invent their own personal morality tend to come up with one that's heavy on demonstrating their superiority to other people and light on holding themselves accountable to any real standard of behavior. Hitler was a guy who figured that he had all the answers and set about remaking the world as he thought it should be. Ditto Mao, Stalin, etc.

Most people who create identities for themselves crafted on some imagined moral distinction are nothing more than narcissists.

I'm not aware of any moral code that prevents much of anything. That's not what moral codes do.

What I am saying is that people who live in relatively free and open societies should distrust people who want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

No one here has been able to provide a moral explanation for vegetarianism or even a good argument against cruelty to animals. There are inherent contradictions in those arguments presented, i.e. if animal life is equal to human life, then why are humans to be held to a higher standard?

The fact is that if we were to develop a purely scientific moral code, it would be that of Darwin and Hitler - kill the weak, kill your rivals, maximize your genes. And civilization would die by fire.

I certainly don't know where Moses got his tablets, where Zoroaster got the Golden Rule or where Jesus got his parables. But the part of the world that hews closest to those scriptures is the best part of the world and has been for centuries.

So when someone tries to elevate themselves above others on the basis of something so trivial as what they choose to eat, it makes me laugh and I make fun of them.

There is no escaping it - veganism is not an opt out because it would not be a sustainable lifestyle absent the wealth and surplus of our modern meat eating, oil burning, capitalist society. Veganism is the moral equivalent of closing your eyes, covering your ears and shouting "na na na na na na na!" It changes nothing and does not reduce culpability. In truth we all kill to live.