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Title: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Jan 06, 2009, 07:56 AM If it's not a joke, it seems Marvel is giving She-THulk her own title.
Link: http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6511.Happy_New_Year_from_the_All-New_She-Hulk (http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/6511new_storyimage0744496_thumb.jpg) Any Comments, Thoughts, Whatever? Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: nic2800 on Jan 06, 2009, 09:03 AM Am I wrong or does that look like Thundra.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: BlackKusanagi on Jan 06, 2009, 09:09 AM The "child" of Hulk and Thundra.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Jan 06, 2009, 09:34 AM Am I wrong or does that look like Thundra. Daughter of, via the Hulk, hence my use of She-THulk - which, I've chosen to call her. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: dcmatthews on Jan 07, 2009, 01:27 AM Does this mean they've given up on the original (Jen Walters) She-Hulk? Not sure I like that idea...
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: BlackKusanagi on Jan 07, 2009, 03:43 AM Does this mean they've given up on the original (Jen Walters) She-Hulk? Not sure I like that idea... In the famous words of the Ooomaloompas... "I dont like the look of it." Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Jan 07, 2009, 05:53 AM Normally, I don't like to give any claim to fame to the She-Hulk forum, given the majority of its members anti-fem-buffedness - that said, its interesting to read the mixed reactions to this proposed announcement of a She-THulk title by Marvel.
Link: http://members2.boardhost.com/SheHulk/msg/1230749919.html Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Terry68d on Jan 07, 2009, 11:03 AM I very much doubt that Marvel is replacing the original. I think this is just a fun poster made up for the holidays. That being said, I don't share what seems to be a general dislike of Thundra's daughter. Some of that might just be attritubal to the notion that Marvel might "dump" She-Hulk in favor of this alternate-universe character. In any case, I think she does have potential, although she does seem redundant at this point (which is another reason there is concern that a big change could be in the works).
I'll always stick with the original, but if Marvel wants to do something more with "She-Thulk" (I like that, Alex) I'll at least take a look. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Delmo on Jan 08, 2009, 12:10 AM If the sales of She-Hulk were so bad they cancelled it, what makes Marvel think this will sell?
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Gambitx on Jan 08, 2009, 12:14 AM Will they really replace Jenifer?
I do not doubt it. But I heard that Thundra had a relationship with the Hulk. That level would be? What? Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Jan 11, 2009, 08:55 AM But I heard that Thundra had a relationship with the Hulk. That level would be? What? That would have been the one-shot issue Hulk: Raging Thunder (http://amaz0ns.com/option,com_smf/Itemid,135/topic,7144.0/), which came out earlier this year. However, its not the Thundra we've known, but a variation of her, one it seems that never sought out the Fantastic Four and has as a consequence retained her extreme Femazonian (Femanazi) view of men as not only inferior, but to be exterminated (genercide). In HULK: Ranging Thunder she didn't have a sexual relationship with him, but rather "took" a sample of his gamma infused DNA and blending it with her own, and "created" a daughter. Her daughter, it remains to be seen if she'll retain this marshal philosophy of sexual-bigotry, or like the Thundra of 616, will gradually evolve into a more balanced individual. The extent of her strength/invulnerability/endurance hasn't been stated yet, but appears to be markedly superior to that of her mother's. Whether or not its on a par with Jen's, I think remains to be seen, and which will depend on how Marvel plans to fit her in. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: ze fly on Jan 11, 2009, 08:03 PM Any Comments, Thoughts, Whatever? :-\ As long as she isn't replacing Jen, I'm not really opposed to that... (http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/33.gif) Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: BlackKusanagi on Jan 11, 2009, 08:46 PM After reading Hulk Family #1...she seems more balanced.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk (coming in April '09) Post by: AlexG on Jan 21, 2009, 10:21 AM It's a mini, four parter - out with the April solicitations.
Link: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19606 Coverart: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200904/HPSSHEHULK001_cov.jpg ALL-NEW SAVAGE SHE-HULK #1 (of 4) Written by FRED VAN LENTE Pencils by TBA Cover by ALEX GARNER From a world where society as we know it has crumbled and humanity has been irrevocably changed, she comes-the all-new, all-different SAVAGE SHE-HULK! But now, a deadly mission has brought her to current Marvel continuity. What terrible secret does this gamma-irradiated beauty bare? And is she friend or foe, Inhuman or mutant, Avenger, Defender...or Invader? Discover the mysteries surrounding this all-new superstar in the Marvel Universe as we proudly presents the all new SAVAGE SHE-HULK! Plus 8 pages of Director's Cut Extras! 40 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$3.99 Also, HULK will be back, too, again, in April, and Spider-Woman is getting her own solo title. Tom Burgos, no doubt, will be please to hear that. 8) Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Feb 20, 2009, 07:41 AM Part of the Marvel Soliciations for May '09 - the youthful contender is going vis-à-vis against the 100% proof original champion for the pro-title of Savage.
Link: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20075 (http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200905/sm/SHEHULK002_cov.jpg) (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200905/SHEHULK002_cov.jpg) ALL-NEW SAVAGE SHE-HULK #2 (of 4) Written by FRED VAN LENTE Penciled by PETER VALE Cover by J. SCOTT CAMPBELL As the all-new, all-different She-Hulk continues her relentless rampage through New York, the mysterious target of the desperate mission that brought her to our time period is revealed -- and it's a doozy! Only one thing stands between the daughter of Hulk and Thundra and the object of her quest -- her name is JENNIFER WALTERS, and she won't let the She-Hulk mantle be taken away from her without a catfight that measures 10 on the Richter scale! And no matter what the outcome, the DARK AVENGERS wait in the wings to take on the winner! Plus, 8 pages of Director's Cut-style extras! 40 PGS./Rated T+ ...$3.99 Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: BlackKusanagi on Feb 20, 2009, 10:10 AM I hope Jen will win. But since its the other's title, I know shes going to win. -_-
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: ze fly on Feb 22, 2009, 08:25 PM Let's call it a draw... ;D
This is still another opportunity to see Jen after the cancellation of her title... :-\ :'( Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Prophet Tenebrae on Feb 25, 2009, 01:55 PM Hopefully this will be a fun series... but I'm going out on a limb and guessing that She-Thulk is lean and green all the time.
And yes, it'll be nice to have She-Hulk after she loses her solo title... let's hope she gets onto a team... or that the Lady Liberators get a book for themselves. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: hotrod_5 on Feb 25, 2009, 02:32 PM I hope Jen will win. But since its the other's title, I know shes going to win. -_- The new She-Hulk will probably win but they will have Jen save face like what was done with Thor in the new Hulk book. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Delmo on Apr 09, 2009, 08:46 PM The 1st issue of this mini came out Wednesday. It's $3.99. Had this been an all Jen mini, I would've bought it. With Jen relegated to a supporting role, pass.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: BlackKusanagi on Apr 10, 2009, 01:36 AM Although I did see some promo art...and shes looking pretty impressive...althou gh I prefer mah SH's black haired...this redhead may do well.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Prophet Tenebrae on Apr 10, 2009, 03:49 AM Amusingly, I think this has had more action in a single issue than the Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine has had in all 4 - the fact the blurb for #5 dubbed it a "slugfest" made me laugh.
Personally, I think they were pretty fucking cheeky. There are (including the cover) only 23 pages of actual comic. The rest is some self-congratulatory backslapping interview where the writer gets to tell us how damned good he is. Admittedly the art and action are good, there's some interesting plot regarding Lyra's backstory and her mission and of course, the obligatory lead in to the fight with She-Hulk. So - my only complaint is the length. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: hotrod_5 on Apr 13, 2009, 03:47 PM Amusingly, I think this has had more action in a single issue than the Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine has had in all 4 - the fact the blurb for #5 dubbed it a "slugfest" made me laugh. Personally, I think they were pretty fucking cheeky. There are (including the cover) only 23 pages of actual comic. The rest is some self-congratulatory backslapping interview where the writer gets to tell us how damned good he is. Admittedly the art and action are good, there's some interesting plot regarding Lyra's backstory and her mission and of course, the obligatory lead in to the fight with She-Hulk. So - my only complaint is the length. I agree with you 100% on all points about the New Savage She-Hulk comic. It's off to a good start so lets hope it continues to be good with the remaining 3 issues. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Apr 18, 2009, 06:29 AM I finally caught up with the issue yesterday, it's decent enough, much better then most of what Marvel is offering these days in its stable of titles.
My only criticism, probably since I write my own stories, is the depth factor - I want more. Then again, this is a mainstream comic that is highly compressed rather then a thoughtful novel where you have a greater range to expand upon. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Prophet Tenebrae on Apr 20, 2009, 01:31 PM Not forgetting that they're forcing the Dark Reign stuff in there (I've no idea what that is, really beyond involving Osborne)... presumably to make it crossover fodder.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Apr 27, 2009, 08:43 AM Quote All-NEW SAVAGE SHE-HULK #4 (of 4) Written by FRED VAN LENTE Penciled by PETER VALE & MICHAEL RYAN Cover by STEPHANE ROUX True Believers, can you withstand the mind-blowing revelations that await you in these pages? Can you retain your sanity upon learning the ultimate implications of Norman Osborn's DARK REIGN? Will you ever sleep again knowing the superhuman-spawned horrors of the twenty-third century are just around the bend? And the only woman standing between us and the apocalypse to come is the ALL-NEW SAVAGE SHE-HULK, locked in a climactic death-duel with the DARK AVENGERS! Plus: Reprinting the Scorpion vs. Venom tale by Fred Van Lente and Leonard Kirk. 40 PGS./New & Reprints/Parental Advisory …$3.99 Link: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20888 (http://images.comicbookresources.com/solicits/marvelcomics/200907/sm/4_ALL_NEW_SAVAGE_SHE_HULK_4.jpg) (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=solicits/marvelcomics/200907/4_ALL_NEW_SAVAGE_SHE_HULK_4.jpg) Now that's a Savage cover . . . ;) ;D 8) Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: The Muffin Man on Apr 30, 2009, 01:03 AM Not forgetting that they're forcing the Dark Reign stuff in there (I've no idea what that is, really beyond involving Osborne)... presumably to make it crossover fodder. In short, Norman Osborn has become the most powerful man in the United States in that he is now the head of SHIELD.Title: All-New savage She-hulk #4 Post by: Don Jack on Apr 30, 2009, 01:23 PM (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/shehulk04.jpg)
This is Lyra. The daughter of Hulk and Thundra.So yes she's awesome. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Apr 30, 2009, 01:41 PM Yes, Lyra . . .
Some over on the She-Hulk Message Board (Who? What? Never heard of it.) have nicknamed her Shundra. I prefer She-THulk, but that's just me. ;) Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Don Jack on Apr 30, 2009, 01:48 PM Yes, Lyra . . . Some over on the She-Hulk Message Board (Who? What? Never heard of it.) have nicknamed her Shundra. I prefer She-THulk, but that's just me. ;) She-Thulk sounds great so does shundra. And man this brings the count of Hulk children up to 3. I'd love to see a familly reunion...with alot of smashing.At the very least i want to see her meat her father. I've been liking the mini so far. In short, Norman Osborn has become the most powerful man in the United States in that he is now the head of SHIELD. HAMMER actually. I dunno, i kinda like it since you know he's enjoying every single second of it. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: cpbell0033944 on May 01, 2009, 07:45 AM She certainly looks savage! :o :-\
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: The Muffin Man on May 04, 2009, 01:42 AM She-Thulk sounds great so does shundra. And man this brings the count of Hulk children up to 3. I'd love to see a familly reunion...with alot of smashing.At the very least i want to see her meat her father. Sadly fell behind just after Secret Invasion, so I'm COMPLETELY lost. But I like the idea of making Norman Osborn a more influential character. He's one of the few Spider-man rogues who seems to get any mileage outside of Bullseye.I've been liking the mini so far. HAMMER actually. I dunno, i kinda like it since you know he's enjoying every single second of it. Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Delmo on May 05, 2009, 12:58 AM Bullseye is a Daredevil rogue.
Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: ze fly on May 10, 2009, 07:45 PM For those interested, I did post a link to some pics of her impending battle with Jen, here (spoiler alert, of course... ;)):
http://amaz0ns.com/option,com_smf/Itemid,135/topic,8755.8/ Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: BlackKusanagi on May 13, 2009, 09:46 PM SPOILER
So...finished reading...quite interesting. Lyra gets weaker the angrier she gets...thats funny. I think. XD Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: Don Jack on Jun 08, 2009, 12:25 AM Bullseye is a Daredevil rogue. though he works for Kingpin who's both a Spider-Man and Daredevil villain. Anyway, can't wait for the next issue with Lyra vs. the DA. I'd also like her to meet her Brother(Skaar already met auntie She-hulk). Title: Re: The All New Savage . . . She-THulk Post by: AlexG on Jun 28, 2009, 07:40 AM An article about the ongoing She-THulk mini-series.
Link: She-Hulk: Endings & Beginnings (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.8519.She-Hulk~colon~_Endings~and~Beginnings) Also, there's some concern @ She-Hulk forum that Marvel "might" be planning to replace Jen with Lyra in the MU, especially given the last comment in the article. Link: Marvel has decided to push / support She-Red Hulk (Lyra) in ways that never happened to Jen (http://members2.boardhost.com/SheHulk/msg/1245107195.html)
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