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Came across this active thread on the
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She-Hulk could bring FBB into the public eye?
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Can't see it doing a huge amount, in all honesty.
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Personally, I think it would be a great idea. The only problem I forsee is the stereotype people already have of fbbs. Society (for the most part) only believe in FBB's who are very slender and slightly muscular in build. I DON'T agree with that, and there are some others in this forum who don't agree with that. But, alas, we're not the masses. Another, is the "Hulking Out" factor. People easily embrace a male who can hulk out, but for some reason, watching or having a female hulk out is somewhat taboo. I can't figure out why...and I hope this taboo changes.
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My own opinion is that if the FBBr is positively packaged, say on the lines of Cory Everson as Atalanta in the Herc series, as a balance of feminine with the overt buffed-up-ness along with a really good storyline (say, one written by Terry19d) and a director who cares about the character, it might give people, particularly women, a pause for thought that muscles on females aren't so bad, are even attractive looking.
It certainly was the case with Linda Hamilton after the T2 movie.
The transformation could be handled in a more subtle manner. Rather then violent, it could be gradual or even a personal moment of unexpected revelation. I know that that won't be to the liking of the die-hard Savage types, but it wouldn't be the first time that a particular superheroic character's background had to be "modified" in order to be marketable to a broader audience.
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I'm not sure the parallels are there... I mean, She-Hulk is essentially a woman that lucked out and got a ripped - well, depending on who's drawing - physique... body builders have to work hard and I don't think any of them enjoy the kind of body that Jen got. FBBs and She-Hulk probably just aren't that close together in the mind of the public.
Also, I agree with baditude... I'm not sure I'd say that it was a taboo perhaps but there seems to be a great deal more reluctance to have a woman hulk out - presumably because femuscle is generally looked down upon and because breasts bursting forth from a top are somewhat more provocative than Banner running around in purple pants. Plus, if you say that
Of course, all that said - a She-Hulk bursting out of her clothes on screen is probably going to lead to more "converts"... and that's probably a more valuable commodity than glancing interest.
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My own opinion is that if the FBBr is positively packaged, say on the lines of Cory Everson as Atalanta in the Herc series, as a balance of feminine with the overt buffed-up-ness along with a really good storyline (say, one written by Terry19d) and a director who cares about the character, it might give people, particularly women, a pause for thought that muscles on females aren't so bad, are even attractive looking.
It certainly was the case with Linda Hamilton after the T2 movie.
...thereby saying what I wanted to say, but chickened out of. I think that female muscularity, either already extant or newly-developing (
) can be sold to the great unwashed, as long as it's handled sensitively. What I'd like to see put across to people is not only the empowerment of buffness, but also the idea that it enhances femininity, not reduces it. The fact is that a balanced, proportioned muscular physique enhances women's natural shape and curves. I would propose, as did Alex, that a 'classic' femuscular physique would be a good starting-point: as much as some here (myself occasionally included) may like hyper-muscle, it can look bulky when at its extreme, and, sadly, so often goes hand-in-hand with an androgenic appearance, which, a few hardcore schmoes apart, will kill any popular interest stone-dead.
As Alex says, storyline and character development is utterly imperative also. An empty shell whose only feature of note is being hugely muscular will only reinforce erroneous stereotypes. One has to think "mass-market" here, and what people like is characters they can understand and empathise with.
With regards to the actual "hulking" aspect, I always find the idea that US a movie (I'm giving-up using British English here as most of our members are from the US) showing a woman's breasts is too provocative for cinema, yet movies with multiple gory deaths and what I call the "everyotherwordisf***" syndrome to be rather ridiculous. If censor's ratings are insufficient to tell people that the film has adult content, then they should stay away and take-up knitting. As for the muscle growth being taboo - well, this is why I feel that more exposure in movies and on TV for buff female characters, in the mould (mold?) of Atalanta would be better preceeding a movie with FMG content, as, if the audience aren't comfortable with femuscle, they won't be happy with FMG.
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Quote from: Prophet Tenebrae on May 21, 2007, 10:20 AM
. . . and because breasts bursting forth from a top are somewhat more provocative than Banner running around in purple pants.
Oh, I don't know, they didn't overtly emphasize the natural uber-endowment to his masculine equipment, either. Which, on the face of it has to happen given what occurs to the rest of his hyperbuilt physique. Instead, they (the artists) just don't draw attention to it.
Again, it would not require her breasts to burst forth from her outfit - it could be just as easily handled (again, using a Terminator movie example) as was the BE scene with Kristanna Loken as the Terminatrix.
Subtlety is required, even if it’s done with a sense of titillation, and not a sledgehammer.
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Quote from: AlexG on May 21, 2007, 11:08 AM
Oh, I don't know, they didn't overtly emphasize the natural uber-endowment to his masculine equipment, either. Which, on the face of it has to happen given what occurs to the rest of his hyperbuilt physique. Instead, they (the artists) just don't draw attention to it.
Again, it would not require her breasts to burst forth from her outfit - it could be just as easily handled (again, using a Terminator movie example) as was the BE scene with Kristanna Loken as the Terminatrix.
Subtlety is required, even if it’s done with a sense of titillation, and not a sledgehammer.
Yet again, AlexG puts what I'm thinking 100x better than I can, using 90% fewer words. Will you be my official spokesman, please?
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