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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 11:20 AM »

Yet again, AlexG puts what I'm thinking 100x better than I can, using 90% fewer words.  Will you be my official spokesman, please?  Kiss Grin Wink

Heh - the contraction/compression factor.  Its an occupational hazard (or reward, depending upon your point-of-view) of writing Power Couple novellas. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 12:08 PM »

I will mention a few things that will be positive news for you folks, and other things which will naturally be bad news, but I'll start with the positive.

Thanks to characters like She-Hulk, Powergirl, Wonder woman, and anyone you can think of that may sometimes be depicted with muscles.  Comic book readers are much more accepting of female muscle and FMG than the mainstream media.  After all how many times have they seen She-Hulk transform from Jen Walters into Shulkie?  Most comic book fans are much more accepting of it, and where there are comic book fans there is sometimes mainstream.

At the same time, the advent of youtube has brought a huge collection of FBB's for the mainstream to enjoy.  Though most of the times even the most feminine body builders will get comments like "Whoa she's a man."  Or the most popular "She'll crush my penis."  There have also been some converts who have said, "I normally don't like muscles on a woman, but I'll make an exception to her."

This suggests that over time female muscle is becoming more and more accepted even by mainstream standards.

HOWEVER!

Even though a lot of things are pointing towards a positive direction it is still taking an extraordinary amount of time to actually reach that point.  People still will be grossed out by the concept of a muscular woman but at the same time the more they are exposed to it the easier it is to accept it.

This is after all how the media influences the world, the more exposure we can get for FBB's like super size she, youtube, She-Hulk, cameo appearances in TV shows, then the greater possibility for female body builders to be accepted by mainstream.


FMG however, whoo... now that is something I don't forsee being accepted for the next 50 years.  A woman hulking out to the size of the incredible hulk is something that I don't think will ever be accepted in mainstream media.

Now however, if you have a woman FMG'ing into a perhaps "smaller" more realistic bodybuilder, like say Jodi Miller into Gina Davis.  The transformation would have to be done in a more sensual, sexual, and arousing way; with less focus on violence and more focus on sex appeal.

So it would probably be close ups of the breasts growing, sleeves ripping at the shoulder, while having the actress panting almost as if she were in ecstacy.  I bet a LOT more people would be accepting of FMG if it were done in that manner; even if they did see a bicep explode from the sleeve they would certainly want to watch it again.

However, even THAT would still turn off a huge amount of mainstream folks.  Sure it would convert a couple but that's something that the mainstream media just isn't ready to accept.  It's going to take a few years of bombardment from the media in order to get female muscle acceptable, once it reaches that stage then it would progress into FMG; but I highly doubt that will ever be acceptable in mainstream.

If you're wondering how I got my info, I've been doing research on this topic for several years.  Using that data I've got I'm hoping to experiment with people's reaction if I created a character that was muscular, but you didn't notice until halfway into the movie.  If people fall in love with personality, will they forget that the character has muscles?

I'll keep you updated on that experiment Wink
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2007, 02:59 PM »

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If you're wondering how I got my info, I've been doing research on this topic for several years.  Using that data I've got I'm hoping to experiment with people's reaction if I created a character that was muscular, but you didn't notice until halfway into the movie.  If people fall in love with personality, will they forget that the character has muscles?

I'll keep you updated on that experiment

Sounds like an interesting experiment.  I look forward to hearing the effect it has.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2007, 04:41 PM »

Your point is valid, AlexG - the Incredible Hulk has been around for quite some time... but he's managed to keep his hulking manhood tucked away for decades... but then, the same is true of She-Hulk - nighties to cover her naughty bits... but I think that it's fairly easy to ignore the penis... the breasts tend to be rather more prominent and generally - breast expansion is either erotic or comic... and that's something that is going to put a dent in selling the concept as serious.

I think that it is all very much about how it's packaged. You're not going to get away with turning a mousy Jen Walters into 7' of hulkingly ripped jade giantess with tits to make Chelsea Charms feel flat. You can push the limits I think - so, yes probably one of the less extreme FBBs... and the breasts couldn't be too huge (proportionally). You'd need to do it properly and you couldn't make it gratuitous but yeah... I think you could probably do it in a mainstream friendly way. I suppose the question is whether it's worth the compromise.
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2007, 10:30 AM »

Believe it or not...I've also gave much thought about a She-Hulk movie, even before the question is asked.  I think the growing effects should be similar to those of the remake of "Attack of the 50 Foot Woman".  In this movie, the woman grew and ripped out of her clothing.  It wasn't done as violently as the Hulk, but the growth was immediate.  And regarding her bosom, even though the shirt ripped completely off, she retained her bra...kind of like it "grew" with her.  Also, whenever FemForcehad their characters growing (Tara and Garganta), their bikinis stretched to cover the "naughty" spots.  I think She-Hulk would be more accepted (generally) on those terms. 

Also, She-Hulk should be as the name sounds...she should follow similar problems as Dr. Banner did (as far as having things frustrate her and make her angry so she would transform).  If she were to moan in ecstasy, or have it be sensual, there wouldn't be much of a market for the mainstream audience because censorship would stop it cold (stupid Censors!). 

Lastly, I believe the She-Hulk character in the movie, should stay true to the somewhat "savage" nature.  Savage She-Hulk wasn't a tantrum-throwing giant like the Hulk...but she still didn't take any mess.  More and more people are embracing the movement of empowering women...I think She-Hulk would be a good movement for that (hopefully, without dogging all men--like the remake of "Attack of the 50 Foot Woman" did).  Collector, I'd love to hear the results of your experiment, too!
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2007, 03:09 PM »

Also, She-Hulk should be as the name sounds...she should follow similar problems as Dr. Banner did (as far as having things frustrate her and make her angry so she would transform).

Well, as we've all learned in Avengers: Search for the She-Hulk, its not anger that makes Jen TF into the Savage-incredible She-Hulk, but fear.   Wink Cool
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2007, 05:13 PM »

Good point, Alex.  You're right...it was fear.
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2007, 06:10 PM »

I wouldn't really say it was a taboo subject or a fetish shunned by the public eye...

I just think no one really cares enough  Roll Eyes
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