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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2007, 06:31 AM »

Sadly, if you venture outside your own community with what is considered abnormal... be that furry, giant breasts, extreme muscle or whatever it's not uncommon for people to make it patently clear that they don't much care for having their perceptions challenged.

Some artists seem to have had a particularly rough time of it on DA but I think that's more in the past than anything. Still, you shouldn't be surprised when some small minded person has a hissy fit - don't worry, they're the same strata of society that shouts "HOOOOEEEE TITTIES!"
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2007, 07:24 AM »

Mika-chan's got a very good point.  When I was picked on and belittled a lot as a kid, my dear Dad always told me... "Consider Your Source."

Something to ask, or find out in the meantime:  the bad-mouthers... have THEY drawn or written anything?   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2007, 08:11 AM »

Sadly, if you venture outside your own community with what is considered abnormal... be that furry, giant breasts, extreme muscle or whatever it's not uncommon for people to make it patently clear that they don't much care for having their perceptions challenged.

Some artists seem to have had a particularly rough time of it on DA but I think that's more in the past than anything. Still, you shouldn't be surprised when some small minded person has a hissy fit - don't worry, they're the same strata of society that shouts "HOOOOEEEE TITTIES!"

Or at times, even within your particular community - such lesser beings are known as Trolls and/or Haters.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2007, 10:50 AM »

Sometimes it's also that people just do it to get a rise out of the artist.  I do remember one time a former poster at our community would mention that she would intentionally troll certain artists or DA accounts just to piss the artist off.  It's how you deal with the situation that is more important, for me I haven't had too many run ins but I try to respond as neutrally as possible.  If they say something insulting, try not to argue back with them because they will keep coming back for more to fight with you.

But don't take it personally, it's just something that most folks end up going through.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 11:57 AM »

Hi I'm a long time lurker that felt he needed to comment on this topic because of the interesting nature of it. I agree that one should not argue against these people because it will only beget more insults and jeers from your attacker. You must remember that there are still other people who appreciate this certain type of art and actually have constructive criticism for you. In the 1920s alcohol was illegal but cocaine was not. But in the decades after alcohol is now socially acceptable to drink well cocaine is not. Perceptions change so don't worry about petty assaults now and continue to add to the growing community with your wonderful artwork.
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2007, 12:56 PM »

 Wow,words of wisdom. Being a newbie myself I made the catastrophic mistake of responding to the "established" artist. He had critiqued my drawing with a single word....grotesque.I pointed out that a critique was a assessment of form and technique not just a personal opinion. He hates body builders and bulging veins but it is OK on the hulk because the hulk should have them(not she hulk though!).I tried to point out the hypocrisy of this and the point that art should spark thought and questions of why we feel this way.As my time at Amazons has for me.I stated that everyone has different tastes and there should be room to explore those tastes as long as we play within the rules,no porn etc.
Yup,reason will win right? LOl. I was ripped apart. None of my points even mentioned and a wave of personal attacks began.One person stated he had shown my picture to coworkers and they had hated it as well.Wow! I was labled a no talent hack and dog piled on by a bunch of people I never knew. To be fair a few people loved it and even requested more and I did get a great pdf of all the loomis drawing books.Ha ha. The venom in some of these peoples posts was scary though. Just drawing a woman with a massive physique warrants this? I am stunned.It is simply amazing the intolerance and hate people will vent over a sketch.Great art gets a single post and a amateur sketch with muscularity gets 3 pages? Just scary.I have learned a valuable lesson though. I will speak through my art and keep my mouth shut!
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2007, 02:06 PM »

well said SinD, well said. Displaying art publically outside of certain communities indeed invites much more praise as well as attacks. People such as Galileo were widely criticised by people in and out of their communities. As you well know he is considered a genius today. Everyone has the right to their opinion and as long as nobody is actually physically preventing you from drawing and posting I say you should keep on as you are
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2007, 06:35 AM »

Sin-san, I applaud you for speaking up, because the experience is so much more valuable than if you were to shy away. Now when you come across such situations again, you can say, "Ah, I understand." And you'll be more sympathetic than most when you see others going through similar trials.

Or at times, even within your particular community - such lesser beings are known as Trolls and/or Haters.

Sir AlexG's words reminded me of the hypocrisy that very much exists within this scene. You may be interested in reading an excerpt from "The Encyclopedia of Amazons" that touch on this. Apparently, it is not so uncommon to be called a "freak" by such Haters of the fetish, only to find that these Haters are themselves a secret patron of such fetishes. It becomes all very amusing after a while Smiley
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