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« on: Jun 30, 2007, 09:58 AM »

Am I the only one who can't find the links pages any more?  Did I miss a posting?

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 30, 2007, 10:13 AM »

I removed the tab, but you should still be able to see them at http://amaz0ns.com/bookmarks.  I'm not really sure what to do with them - they've never seen much use relative to the rest of the site, and Google penalizes sites that have many outbound links. 

I may launch a separate site that would make them available to everyone.
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 30, 2007, 11:15 AM »

How about making a forum thread (like an announcement or something that would stay on top) and list the links there?
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 30, 2007, 02:32 PM »

Lingster,

Thanks for the URL.  I think that will save me a lot of time.  Stmercy2020's suggestion sounds reasonable to me too, unless there is a problem with people linking out of the forum. 
Do you mind telling me more about the penalty Google places on places with lots of links?  Is this something to prevent abuse of some kind?

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« Reply #4 on: Jun 30, 2007, 04:45 PM »

Well, it's complicated.  You may have noticed that when you mouse-over some links in the front part of the site, a little call-out box appears that describes the destination.  That's the result of a script that calls on the bookmarks database for information about the link.  There wouldn't be a practical way to migrate that to the forum.

Google sets something called "pagerank" based on the number of inbound links to a site.  Google also penalizes sites when they have lots of outbound links.  Amaz0ns' pagerank dropped earlier this year when I did a good bit of necessary housecleaning on the site, which pissed off Google because it changed the URL format of pages.  You probably never noticed that it happened, but Google did.  Amaz0ns pagerank dropped by about 10% and has yet to climb back up.  Eventually it will, but I'm impatient.

The amount of money a site can make from Google Adsense is affected by pagerank.  For reasons I won't go into here, it's much harder to make money from online advertising in the summer than during the rest of the year.  So I am trying to get a pagerank bump by reducing the number of outbound links on the site.  Make sense?

Also, most of the sites in the bookmarks database have never linked back.  So I am a little tired of throwing some of Amaz0ns pagerank to them, when they don't reciprocate.

Another reason I've been stripping down Amaz0ns features is that Amaz0ns is too big for its hosting plan, and it's using the largest plan the current webhost offers.  What this has meant over the last few months is that Amaz0ns crashes several times a day, for a few minutes at a time.  By cutting down some of the non-core features, I've got the crashes down to a handful per week instead of five or six per day.

Another tactic I've tried to make this work is to spawn new sites, such as:

http://muscularmedia.com
http://shulkie.com
http://brawna.org
http://buffvideo.com

That way when I have an idea for a new feature, I can roll it out on one of those other sites, on a different hosting plan.

I'll see what I can do about coming up with a solution to the bookmarks problem.  I may just make them available to logged-in users.
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 30, 2007, 10:23 PM »

Lingster,

Thank you for the thorough answer.  I am left with one question then(and a follow up ?):  does it in any way harm your interests if people use those bookmarks despite there being no direct link to it? Would you prefer that people not use those links for any reason?

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« Reply #6 on: Jul 01, 2007, 12:58 AM »

I have to say that I'm relieved to here all of this information. I was recently looking for the Links tab as well, but couldn't find it. Ironically enough, I was going to post the same question, but, on a whim, I decided to check the posts that I haven't read yet. Funny how some things work out, huh?
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 01, 2007, 10:38 AM »

OK, "Links" should appear on the front site menu when you're logged in.  If you're not logged in, you won't see it.
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