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« on: Oct 15, 2007, 02:44 AM »

Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster.  A little info on myself, I am a 300 lbs wrestler who loves strong girls for the simple reason of having someone who can keep up with me without worrying about hurting them. Cheesy  I lift free weights four times a week, circuit train 2-3 times a week and run when I can.  Due to my size, I throw down about 200 grams of protein powders a day (not counting my meals).  But I hit a plateau about six months ago which discouraged me almost to the point of stopping training, I wasn't getting size or strength gains. 
Then I heard about hemodilators.  (ah the point emerges!)  Now I'm really picky about what I fire down being that being a big guy is detrimental to a long life anyways but I can't find much if anything on these suppliments.  Anything you folks might have heard would be a real help to me on this one.  I have tried a few days of experimental doses and have noticed a huge increase in energy levels (I live at a high altitude and you get blown pretty quick here) as well as strength gains.  But again I would like to hear from you.
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 15, 2007, 02:53 AM »

I assume you've already checked the wiki on this subject, but in case you haven't yet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasodilator

There are also several WebMD articles, of which the FAQ is probably the most useful for your purposes:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/475115

I think the most important thing here is to be aware of your blood pressure, because weight training helps to lower it, as do vasodilators.  It might be possible to lower it to a point where it became dangerous or life threatening.  As with any drug, it would probably be best to consult a doctor before beginning a program that mixed these drugs with training.
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 15, 2007, 03:07 PM »

Thanks for the reply Stmercy.
Yeah I knew how they work, I guess I should've refined my question a bit more.  There's lots of things out there on how it works, I guess I was looking more for testimonials from other folks that might've tried it.  And for anything that might speak of any long term effects good or bad.  I'd hate to get used to this stuff only to find out it's the next Phen-phen as far as messing you up.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 28, 2007, 01:16 AM »

Thanks for the reply Stmercy.
Yeah I knew how they work, I guess I should've refined my question a bit more.  There's lots of things out there on how it works, I guess I was looking more for testimonials from other folks that might've tried it.  And for anything that might speak of any long term effects good or bad.  I'd hate to get used to this stuff only to find out it's the next Phen-phen as far as messing you up.

The better part of caution -- and since I can't read the labels on the stuff you're using for this, I dunno, could be the very same thing -- stick to caffeine. Coffee probably ain't too handy in the gym, but if you have it where you live, get an assortment of the energy drinks that come in re-lid-able cans or bottles (Rockstar, Monster Energy, NOS) and find a favorite. Will probably do much the same thing and be one fifth the price of the equivalent dose of what you'd get at a GNC.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 07, 2008, 11:36 PM »

I'm taking diltiazem this winter for Reynaud's Syndrome - it's a calcium channel blocker and thus a vasodilator.  (For me, it's important to open up the fine capillaries.  My sister has the same problem and so did my maternal grandfather.)  Anyway, I've noticed that the diltiazem seems to be more than a mere treatment for the problem - it actually seems to be correcting the cause.  It's a bit surprising because I didn't think it would do that.
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