Well I agree that it is indeed time to turn the heat down on this topic, as someone said above. It's ok that we can disagree on this issue. You know where I stand and why, and I know where those of you have posted stand- and thats fine.

*Just a couple of quick items.
on the "reputation" claims. I think it would be incredibly stupid for any BB'er to admit to taking steroids for obvious image and endorsement reasons. That being said, I dont know why JD would claim to be natural if shes not; i could offer theries but it would be pure speculation and I am not going to beat a now dead horse.

And to cbpell, I admit that I am not a qualified biologist by any means but if you are, even you must admit that test. production is the single greatest factor for muscle growth. My evidence on female test. was based on legitimate medical journals found threw a scholarly archive engine.

Also, there was someone who said that they fail to see how male bb's are an authority. I personally think they credible, but I did insist in early posts that acctual medical science evidence certaintly trump theirs.

And finally there was a comment about competeing in drug "tested" events. IFBB and NPC testing is frankly a joke, it is raveged with inconsistencies and hypocricy. There are hundreds of articles on this topic on the web.

Ladies and Gentlemen, lets get back to discussing JD's lucious biceps and not if they are natural.

to clarify something. If one looks at the contest that Jd was participated that are Drug tested, most of them aren't IFBB or NPC sanctioned they are from other more serious federations.

This aside, Let's just get back to our usual discusions.

A pic from the prejudging this morning at the Canadian Championships in Montreal:



From this pic I think J should take the middleweight class easily and be in with a good shot at the overall and Pro card. The finals are happening right now so stay tuned...