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« Reply #24 on: Aug 02, 2009, 06:40 PM »

This is so typical.

Comic books are just dead set on making sure that muscle mass on females is a strictly villain trait.

Too true, alas Cry
Look at muscled characters: titania, Stunner, Punchout... all villainesses.  Angry
Except maybe "Rigger" Ruiz of Code: Blue  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: Aug 03, 2009, 01:53 AM »

Hm.

Isn't the big bulky look in general used for characters who are supposed to be ominous/intimidating?

I realize we are talking specifically about female muscle, but generally, the bigger character automatically has a certain kind of (I'll exaggerate slightly for effect) oppressive presence, and I suspect that for heroes they might want to avoid that.

That seems to hold true for male characters as well.

Take the normal Banner Green Hulk. He's big and buff--but that very big buffness often symbolizes just how dangerous he is. Same with Juggernaut, even when he was not a full-on villain.

I wonder if, artistically, part of the willingness to have the female villains have more obvious muscle than the female heroes is simply to help show, visually, that they are aggressive in a way the heroes are not.

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« Reply #26 on: Aug 03, 2009, 04:42 AM »

That doesn't explain why male character without superstrength (Ex: Cyclops, Bishop), have more muscle mass than female character that do have superstrength (Rogue, Mary Marvel)
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« Reply #27 on: Aug 03, 2009, 06:19 AM »

That doesn't explain why male character without superstrength (Ex: Cyclops, Bishop), have more muscle mass than female character that do have superstrength (Rogue, Mary Marvel)

No, it doesn't at all, and is not intended to be a comprehensive explanation. I am throwing out a theory, that it does seem that, within gender (ie, comparing men-to-men and women-to-women), there does seem to be a general trend that the physically larger characters are intended to be more aggressive in attitude than the less obviously buff ones.

Heck, compare Spider-Man to Cable, for example.

I don't even think I'm necessarily correct--just that it does seem that, very generally, this tends to be the case.
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 03, 2009, 10:21 AM »

I think it all comes down to the false assumption that muscle and strength are specifically male traits.

But like I've said elsewhere, no point acting like things aren't better than they've ever been. I mean, I was reading She-Hulk #38 the other day and even if she isn't quite as buff as she is on the cover, she's pretty damn buff - dare I say, hulking. Not only that, Jazinda is half-naked and that girl had abs of steel and to stick with the green girls... Lyra was certainly depicted as well built (and her aunt too).

So, I feel that... we've never had it so good and that anyone bemoaning the state of affairs should have a bit of perspective. Yes, things can always get better but while we may have to endure Whedon Waif Syndrome... there's plenty of good stuff out there. They aren't pulling any punches with Powergirl these days. Which makes her secret identity HILARIOUS, as Lingster points out.
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« Reply #29 on: Aug 05, 2009, 08:32 PM »

Which makes her secret identity HILARIOUS, as Lingster points out.

I must have missed that. What did Lingster say?
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« Reply #30 on: Aug 06, 2009, 09:47 AM »

As a picture is a thousand words...

This will be in the interest of brevity.

Which was pretty much what I was thinking through the whole first issues of Powergirl - at least Superman has glasses. Powergirl... she doesn't even really change her hair or dress down. I swear, someone must have just made people in the DCU miss the bleedin' obvious at the genetic level.
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« Reply #31 on: Oct 28, 2009, 09:18 PM »

So, the issue that she actually does something in (Hulk #16) Came out today. And I must say, she has some very serious arms.  Grin

Shes somewhat angry...but I can tolerate her personality a little more than I could tolerate Rulk's. But then again it may be the fact that she has boobs. And is femuscular. And beautiful.
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