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January 10, 2007 at 12:25 am #45748
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ParticipantFinding a range of very sexy photos of Serena Williams at the following URL:
reminded me of two things.
1./ Once, long ago, before I realised the error of my ways, I decided that the Williams sisters were basically men in tennis dresses. :-[ :'( Yes, I fell for the stereotyped response that conventional society taught me. I must confess, even now I don't find Venus Williams especially sexy, but Serena, wow! She's definitely taking her place on my Goddess's list.
2./ Serena hasn't got the adoration I feel she deserves on Amaz0ns (apart from a couple of posts by our dear leader a while back), so how's about we redress the balance now, eh? 🙂
January 11, 2007 at 3:41 am #45749Grandmaster
ParticipantSerena…definitely taking her place on my Goddess's list.
How did this happen?! I know she didn't change, so…?
2./ Serena hasn't got the adoration I feel she deserves on Amaz0ns (apart from a couple of posts by our dear leader a while back), so how's about we redress the balance now, eh? 🙂
M'kay. But Serena is an acquired taste, especially for people more into blondes and light-skinned women. I think if you have to prod a man (however gently) into being a fan of Serena for more than her athletic prowess, it ain't gonna happen… 😉
January 11, 2007 at 7:59 am #45750P. S
ParticipantI must confess, even now I don't find Venus Williams especially sexy, but Serena, wow! She's definitely taking her place on my Goddess's list.
I'm not feeling Venus either but Serena has always been on my list
January 11, 2007 at 3:51 pm #45751cpbell0033944
ParticipantGrandmaster – point #1 of my original post explains why Serena has only just joined my Goddess's list.
P.S. I'm damm glad I'm not the only one who thinks she's sexy. 8) I'd started to think it was just me! :-[ 8)January 11, 2007 at 9:36 pm #45752Grandmaster
ParticipantC.P., you said, "Yes, I fell for the stereotyped response that conventional society taught me."
Which stereotyped response? The one "conventional society" teaches against muscular women? Or the one about dark-skinned Black women?
I have never been aware of the Williams sisters being derided in the media for their muscular appearance or athletic abilities–unless you count Shawn and Marlon Wayans in drag on MTV (I try not to), or their being "ignored" by lad mags (mercifully so in my opinion). I have followed their careers since they returned to the national spotlight as adult champions, and I don't recall them ever being broadly maligned (at least not in the U.S.–which probably has more to do with them being champion athletes in a closer-to-mainstream sport than it does "acceptance" of their…unique qualities).
January 12, 2007 at 12:24 am #45753cpbell0033944
ParticipantI was referring to their muscularity, not their ethnicity (I am about as anti-racist as its possible to be). Whether society disapproves of their race means not one jot to me (I do happen to think that the UK is nowadays less inherently racist than the US, although 25-30 years ago it may well have been the other way around.) Their physiques, however, are still the subject of much derision and scorn on the Internet as a whole (I've read some very anti-femuscle and some racist views in the last few days).
Culturally, the UK is afraid of muscular women as much as, if not more so than the US – although the fad amongst teenage girls here to idolise dangerously skinny celebrities did lag behind the US, the prevailing desireable female stereotype has long been the curvy but soft figure. Being from the US, the Williams sisters were possibly 'tolerated' in terms of their Amazonic status because they were winning – success is a potent medicine that helps heal prejudices. Let's not ignore the fact that the UK hasn't had a decent female tennis player since the days of Virginia Wade and Sue Barker; both were talented and successful – Wade won Wimbledon, Barker won the French Open – but that was back in the mid-1970s. It therefore made popular opinion turn against the Williams sisters much more easily. Add in the excessive cultural influence of the British tabloid press (the infamous "red-tops") who decree that a "bit of totty" (young woman) isn't worth looking at unless she's curvy but unthreatening and possesses the all-important "big knockers" (breasts), and you can see that the conventional UK response to Venus and Serena was "ugly, bloke-like freaks in tennis dresses". By the way, all words in quotation marks are not my words, they reflect the opinions of either the Neanderthal-like Sun newspaper-reading so-called 'Great British public' or, in some cases even the 'chattering classes' – those often right-wing, middle-class reactionaries who read the Telegraph or the Daily Mail, both newspapers which pander to closed-minded reactionary thinking.
January 12, 2007 at 3:33 am #45754Grandmaster
ParticipantI very much appreciate your thoughts, C.P. (See, I "knew" you had some insight.) 😉
Their physiques, however, are still the subject of much derision and scorn on the Internet as a whole (I've read some very anti-femuscle and some racist views in the last few days).
Ah. You see, I'm "spoiled". I generally steer clear of those places (I don't need the aggravation).
…the conventional UK response to Venus and Serena was "ugly, bloke-like freaks in tennis dresses".
Okay. Wow. U.S. folks–did "we" do this here, too? In traditional commercial media (not online)? If so, I missed it.
January 12, 2007 at 3:26 pm #45755cpbell0033944
ParticipantI very much appreciate your thoughts, C.P. (See, I "knew" you had some insight.) 😉
Ah. You see, I'm "spoiled". I generally steer clear of those places (I don't need the aggravation).
Okay. Wow. U.S. folks–did "we" do this here, too? In traditional commercial media (not online)? If so, I missed it.
As far as "steering clear of those places" is concerned, I certainly don't go looking for that sort of thing, but it is quite healthy (I think) to play Devil's Advocate and to try and see the alternate point of view. I find that it tends to help reaffirm my feelings of "Wow, she's sexy" ;D 8)
I don't obviously know whether your media did or didn't. I'm not saying that the UK press rabidly pilloried them the whole time either, but it was rather like wading into the sea when there's an undertow off the beach; it may look calm on the surface, but, delve a little deeper and it's trying to pull your legs from under you.Oh, and to illustrate my feelings about Serena, just take a look at the left-hand three photos on the bottom row of the following:
How any guy at peace with himself and without a chip on his shoulder can fail to be reduced to a dribbling wreck by her sheer magnificence is quite beyond me. The lefthandmost image in particular is, to my mind, an iconic image of an Amazonic woman – strong, tall, proud, silhouetted against the sky and looking truly heroic.
Mmmmmm (melts into puddle of lust) ;D :-[ 8)January 12, 2007 at 4:04 pm #45756AlexG
KeymasterHeh, the way she'd exhale while hitting that the tennis ball I wouldn't have been surprised to see it go through the other girl like something out of WB cartoon . . . 😀
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~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)October 6, 2007 at 5:03 am #45757Mimi
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