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January 17, 2007 at 2:10 am #46030
John
ParticipantI have written a few short stories / comic strips for my own "amusement", shall we say, but rarely do I use the current norms for women as a base. I haven't released any to the public, because well, they are really just designed for my tastes and they aren't really your classic "schmoe fantasy" with girls kicking everyone's ass, etc. That and I have doubts about my writing (and grammatical) mastery. I let the "pros" release their work. Mine's really just for fun.
I do write a story loosely based on real society now and again, but I find these limiting, and usually focusing negatively on a society that frowns on female muscle in general. Usually in these cases, the girls are "breaking free" from the current system of female muscle hating, and changing attitudes towards well-built women. Like I said, negative in general.
But, in most cases, I just make a new society where people don't think twice about a woman being strong and built. Not necessarily every woman in these worlds is built to the max, but being muscular is always seen as a desirable trait. My attitude about the amount of muscular women is — the more the merrier. I don't think having more dilutes the "novelty" of beautiful muscle women. For me it isn't about novelty anyway. It's just the aesthetic and functional aspects that turn me on to female muscle in general.
Like I said, I'm not into total domination stories, so naturally I have the males pretty well built as well. I suppose because I like to picture myself as a buff guy (I'm not small, but kind of tall/lanky — or at least was) landing a bunch of muscle chicks. Usually the men and women are pretty comparitive in strength. Sometimes I make the men a little bigger and stronger, others I make a muscle matriarchy. Either way, the women are more than capable of handling their own affairs.
As far as settings, I like to have the world isolated from "reality". That said, I usually connect it to real life as an offshoot group of some sorts. There are many ways I do this:
– Parallel timelines. I.e. same place, same time; but there was a branching point in the past that makes this society markedly different.
– Space colony. Sometimes I have aliens invade, others I have a group based from earth crash on a faraway planet.
– "Gilligan's Island". A group crashes on a tropical, isolated island. This group starts a society. Just a more primitive version of the space scenario.
– Post-global disaster. The world population died out,save for a couple people. These restarted a muscular society.There are some ideas I have yet to try, like a society inverted from the current one. Kind of like a satirical look at gender roles, but still a nice fantasy for traditional muscle fantasy purposes.
What if everything was reverse? Muscular men were very rare, and women were the "strong" sex, dominated sports, etc. Men who work out are looked at as "unmasculine". Female equivalents to schmoes are looking at "MBBs" on the internet, and are looked down on by mainstream female society as deviants.
Here are some examples of the possibilities:
– 80K screaming fans watch on as a buff female LB sacks a smaller female QB.
– Winners of female bodybuilding competitions get a substantial paycheck.
– Some buff Austrian broad is the biggest action hero of the 80s and 90s.
– All major fenale action heroes are very built, while guys like Wierd Al and Urkel are playing Superman.
– All the major political movements for women are replaced with men's movements.Some interesting, arousing, and downright hilarious scenarios are potentially there.
January 17, 2007 at 2:48 am #46031Grandmaster
ParticipantInteresting…
January 17, 2007 at 7:41 am #46032Holiday
ParticipantI usually favor the space colony idea. That or a superhero concept or a sudden mutation setting.
January 18, 2007 at 2:32 am #46033JimmyDimples
ParticipantDoubts about your writing and grammar mastery? :- That's like Will Smith thinking he's not up to his next movie… don't do dat.
Well, I like the alternate reality storyline myself, and have written one with Monty Bank, but I tend to not let fantasy get in the way of my harsh reality. I'm a firm believer in cause and effect (including and especially the nasty backlashes that most fans of the genre tend to not consider) and what would REALLY happen.
For instance, I'm not sure if I can picture more female athletes in a buff female world. According to "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus," women are more social and chatty, and prefer building relationships instead of a trophy collection. If they ruled the world, we'd see more restaurants and coffee shops than sports arenas.
And with writing a relationship with a guy and a bigger, stronger girl, I tend to make the fellow strong in heart, mind, soul, spirit, and general goodness. And he is able to keep her fascination with his personality, confidence, and general sweetness. He's not a total pie belly or stick figure, of course, but he's not gonna flex his way into her heart.
Me, it looks like I tend to put my writings in worlds with cars and guns. And lately, I'd been leaning to the post (or amid!) apocolyptic world, where we see the aftermath of a schmoe's fantasy gone totally wrong.
All the same, I believe we'd LOVE to see your writings. Your first post is a winner… don't hide your light under a bushel basket!
January 18, 2007 at 5:12 am #46034Prophet Tenebrae
ParticipantTo be honest, I'd say alternate histories are probably the most interesting. The others are kind of cheating 😉
If you do an alternate history, you can explain why things diverged… which is always fun.
Sudden mutation can be a fun one to do as well, it means you just take the contemporary world and do a contemporary reaction to it.
January 18, 2007 at 4:51 pm #46035ParticipantFor instance, I'm not sure if I can picture more female athletes in a buff female world. According to "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus," women are more social and chatty, and prefer building relationships instead of a trophy collection.
Heh, heh. I'd like to see a story where Planet Mars is destroyed. Then when they start replacing Mars with Jupiter in the phrase hostile alien invaders come from there and women end having to defend Earth as well.
January 19, 2007 at 1:34 am #46036
AlexGKeymasterAlt-history (aka Counter Factuals) is a common staple in my stories, but despite the quality of the background material, unless you have a character / characters that people can relate to early on you're not going to hook their interest. Also, attention span (or the lack thereof) is another factor you have take into account. Its been my observation that few have any interest in following a lengthy on-line story these days – five to seven chapters, at most, before you start to lose your audience.
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)January 27, 2007 at 2:45 pm #46037ParticipantOne of my space colony ideas was about how pro-Aryan fascists try to create their own racially pure colony in secret. Theoretically, it's possible to create such an isolated colony in an age of rapid space migration. But I wanted this to be a new colony that depends on newcomers and constant planetary trade. Therefore, colony's leaders secretly use genetic engineering in the health check-ups to ensure the women produce their ideal ubermensch. Eventually, the women discover the truth when the births end up with a ratio of 1:5 from boys to girls. The offspring all have great potential to build more muscles and such. The fascists' plans uncovered, they try to begin anew, but the women fight back.
The second part is supposed to be how the women in this colony try to live on, especially when the other colonies scorn them.
February 12, 2007 at 8:57 am #46038Pug
ParticipantI'm just speaking from the untalented readers pov, but I confess, I have always rather liked the gradual shift from here and now, to a sexier not quite here and now – even in fantasy settings I find myself more likely to enjoy a shift from an expected set of stereotypes to an unexpected change.
I also definitely like future SF – I think it is, again, the ability to fantasize/extrapolate how things got from point A to point B.
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December 18, 2007 at 12:34 pm #46039ParticipantI had another futuristic space idea. This was first inspired when I saw Camille Bella in the remake of "When a Stranger Calls". It's a human colony on a far planet in the distant future. The civilization is much like what we have today in North America with the exception of some advanced gadgets. The planet has been terraformed to look like today's Earth so that helps keep things more relatable.
Anyway, this idea was conceived by using actresses as a visual model. "Camille" is an off-world migrant who's spent most of her life living in artificial satellite colonies. When the story begins it's the first time she's ever lived on the surface of a real planet. Unfortunately, it's hard for her to assimilate in that open environment. Her father is an engineer and always busy. Her mother died a few years ago and she misses her terribly.
As she tries to cope with her new environment she is also bewildered at how many women on the planet have strong figures or are very muscular. She befriends one of the local police detective, who looks like actress Eva LaRue. 'Eva' helps her get a babysitting gig for her older sister, who looks like Jennifer Esposito. The work keeps her out of trouble and through this she learns about why more women on that world train to be stronger and more fit, unlike those who live in the satellite colonies.
As the story progresses, 'Camille' finds herself inspired to train for her high school's track and field team. Living in the space colonies there wasn't much space to run around. Now she wants to challenge herself. This also inspires 'Eva' to compete in a private figure contest against one of her fellow officers, who looks like Victoria Pratt. This private contest soon involves Eva's' older sister, 'Jennifer', who used to compete professionally before she got married and bore children. Soon it involves other women connected to their work. (This all takes place in a town on the planet).
The department assistant pathologist gets involved (she looks like Jennifer Finnigan/Close to Home) after being challenged by an officer from the next town. (She looks like Paula Garces). Both used to be cheerleaders from their town's high schools. 'Jennifer', who plays the sister of 'Eva', decides she needs two other judges and ten contestants, much to her sister's dismay. 'Camille' accompanies the many women as they find more contestants to complete in it. But she finds this new experience threatened after her father tells her the family might have to move again next year. What will the young girl do as she finds herself drawn to her new world?
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