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July 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm #73748
SnowLeopardTaur
ParticipantThere seems to be a lot of overlap between muscle growth and breast expansion fetishes… but I don't really understand why. To me they don't have that much to do with eachother. Can anyone explain their point of view on the subject maybe?
July 22, 2008 at 6:50 pm #73749Michael Pouliot
ParticipantI suspect it has to do with a desire for both power and femininity. Breasts are an obvious physical manifestation of femininity. A woman with large breasts isn't necessarily for feminine from an emotional sense, but the enhancement of "womanly attributes" only helps to highlight the fact that we are dealing with a woman in the first place.
The downside (for me) of real-life FBB is the fact that there is some loss of feminine characteristics, especially with those who use. And as a heterosexual male, that has a clear impact on their attractiveness. It's why I prefer FBB with implants, even if some of the implants do look silly.
But frankly, I'm not sure I have a good explanation as to why I like big breasts so much. Same goes with my FBB preference. So what is the true root of booth? Is it simply instinct? In the end, I don't really know.
July 22, 2008 at 8:14 pm #73750TC2
ParticipantYou'll probably get a variety of different answers for this one, but here's one that I'm most satisfied.
The main reason breast expansion and muscle growth overlap with one another in my eyes, is for the simple reason that it is growth in general. The idea is for the woman to grow and become mightier, more feminine, an exaggerated form of feminine curves and pure power.
For me it is a major turn off when a female body builder loses breast tissue due to muscle building. Some female bodybuilders pull it off better than others like Annie R. but others look much too masculine when they lose their breast tissue. So in FMG, the idea is to keep the woman still looking incredible feminine while adding on several hundred pounds of muscle onto her frame.
Sometimes it is necessary to add the breasts, because of certain artist renditions. When I make the muscles extremely exaggerated to the point where it's like the incredible hulk, I need to add the large breasts in order to still keep the character as a representative female.
Also, I'm a very big fan of large chests, so that's the main reason I tend to always include BE with FMG, though the FMG is way more interesting in my opinion.
July 22, 2008 at 8:26 pm #73751Michael Pouliot
ParticipantFor me it is a major turn off when a female body builder loses breast tissue due to muscle building.
There was someone on AMG today that I think really highlights this.
Compare this photo of Monia Gioiosa to this classic photo of Frank Zane. Now, Monia doesn't have a strong male chin like Frank, but her face isn't that far off from "pretty" men, which I think includes Frank. Take Frank, dress him up in Monia's garb, and how much difference would there be?
July 23, 2008 at 1:22 am #73752DevonCory
ParticipantThat's a very good question Snow, and I don't think I could consciously explain it. The fact is that fetishism has a lot to do with the unconscious, so it can be hard for someone to actually explain it.
For me I think that I_Am_Not_Herbert hit it pretty much on the nail. However, I've heard a theory somewhere about the appeal of growth. The theory was that growth was all about power, both physical and sexual, and that BE represented feminine power and FMG represented masculine power.
Something to think about I guess.
July 23, 2008 at 2:02 am #73753SnowLeopardTaur
ParticipantThere was someone on AMG today that I think really highlights this.
Compare this photo of Monia Gioiosa to this classic photo of Frank Zane. Now, Monia doesn't have a strong male chin like Frank, but her face isn't that far off from "pretty" men, which I think includes Frank. Take Frank, dress him up in Monia's garb, and how much difference would there be?
That's one of the things I fear about building muscle. My breasts really aren't that big in the first place ($@#%!!), and I know that if I want to have very defined muscles I'll have to lose a lot of body fat, which means my breasts will likely shrink. There's not much I can do about that other than get breast implants, but I don't want to do that for the same reason I don't want to take steroids for muscle growth… it's not natural.
Naturally large-breasted muscle girls… It's definitely in the realm of fantasy. ^^;;
July 23, 2008 at 3:34 am #73754DevonCory
ParticipantNaturally large-breasted muscle girls… It's definitely in the realm of fantasy. ^^;;
Well, it can happen, but it's a rare thing. Breasts are mostly made of fatty tissues after all. That being said, quite a few fitness athletes have breast implants. It might be unnatural, but it seems that many find it to be a small price to pay to regain some of their feminine curves.
July 27, 2008 at 3:21 am #73755Dan
ParticipantIt's one of the reasons why as a general rule I much prefer-off season photos. Or like halfway to competion-shape. Some of the competition pics… yeesh. I think they make them get far too shredded.
July 27, 2008 at 5:52 am #73756Robert McNay
ParticipantPersonal opinion, I like it better if a FFB does NOT get implants. They just don't look natural, not on a Playboy centerfold or an athlete. In a body builder, it just get worse as she pares down her weight for competition. The implant get more and more pronounced, sometimes to the point that you can actually see the seam and wrinkles in the covering.
I don't see why they need to have these huge balloons anyways. I see Emmanuela Pintus (when she was bodybuilding), Juliette Bergman, Laura Bass or Mindi O'Brien and I think they are gorgeous. To me, it's the whole woman, not that she has her own personal floatation system.
July 27, 2008 at 6:42 am #73757Muscle Growth Nut
ParticipantI just stumbled across this surprisingly on-topic entry on TVTropes:
There is a lot of artwork over at Deviantart in which heavily muscled (as in "could be female version of any male WWF heavyweight") women also sport boobs that are so impossibly gargantuan that any real-life woman would have had reduction surgery. Apparently, these artists Did Not Do The Research: women who are that ripped tend to be as flat-chested as their male counterparts for the reasons given above – as a glance at any bodybuilding magazine will tell you. Well, they probably did do the research – just not for reasons this trope suggests.
Seems just a bit snarkier than usual, but I'm thinking we should make some sort of polite response. Maybe summarize the femininity argument, and link them to Gettar as an example of an aversion…
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