Re: Is FBBing a Mental Disorder?

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  • #77559
    AlexG
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    Well…  It's not a mental illness in itself, and I wouldn't tie it just to women.

    Yes, one could include MBBing, making it BBing in general, but the original question was asked in AAWA and directed at FBBing, and for the same reason I posed the question as I did since MBBing isn't the raison d'être of Amaz0ns.

    However, hardcore (and drug using) bodybuilding of any kind – competitive or otherwise, male or female – is probably rooted in problems with obsessive or narcissistic behavior.   I'm not a shrink, though.

    People who become fixated on creating a "new" self or an extremely powerful facade tend to have problems.

    I think you'd have to also include masochistic as well, the deriving of pleasure, although self-inflicted, from intensive pain.  Some have described getting pump’d as sexual in nature.

    I think that this is a rediculous question.

    How is the question is ridiculous?  Rather, not asking a question is ridiculous.

    I think you're missing the point of the original question.

    Some folks are workaholics, some aren't.
    Some FBB's take it "too far" and some don't. Betty Pariso, Annie Rivieccio, Vicki Nixon… have been FBBers for years/decades and maintained their general health.

    True – but someone could just as easily point to Dawn Whitham, Nicole Bass, Heather Tristany or numbers of others for the negative side and where the self-destructive behavior of BBing can take you.

    “I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
    ~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

    #77560
    cpbell0033944
    Participant

    As far as I can see, it's hard to pinpoint where dedication and love for BBing stops and mental illness starts.  I think the likes of Nicole Bass show that it can give rise to mental illness, but I would agree with Fett that FBBing is probably a manifestation in some women of a deeper problem – Kristy Hawkins said in that programme that BBing helps her to control unhealthy and possibly dangerous issues she has with food.

    I'm very pleased that Seldom agrees with me on offseason vs. contest appearance, though.  I really don't care for that ultra-dry look at all.  The women look etiolated, weakened and, as he said, like an anatomy chart.  Defined, conditioned and ripped, yes; pinched cheeks, no thanks.  Even if judging criteria change (as I think they should), I would still prefer the women in offseason trim, as theyllok so curvaceous, powerful, strong, beautiful and sexy.  They embody the attributes of the physically powerful woman that I love so very much. 8)

    #77561
    ratlaf
    Participant

    I'm very pleased that Seldom agrees with me on offseason vs. contest appearance, though.  I really don't care for that ultra-dry look at all.  The women look etiolated, weakened and, as he said, like an anatomy chart.  Defined, conditioned and ripped, yes; pinched cheeks, no thanks.  Even if judging criteria change (as I think they should), I would still prefer the women in offseason trim, as theyllok so curvaceous, powerful, strong, beautiful and sexy.  They embody the attributes of the physically powerful woman that I love so very much. 8)

    At risk of getting off topic, I'm with CP and Seldom about the contest shape of FBBs.  The emaciated(?) look is not very attractive to me at all!  On the other end of the spectrum the full off season look isn't either, a healthy balance in between is just right.  Ani Riviecco being a great example of just the right balance.

    As for all female bodybuilders having a mental disease that makes them want to bodybuild, I think that's wrong.  Most women who build do it because they love it.  Many do it, like Special-K, to help keep themselves fit and healthy, and in a world filled with obeisety(?) you'd think having a few more fit and healthy women would be a good thing.  Some do take it to extremes and they may very well qualify for the mental illness category, but only of the minor ilnesses relating to poor self image.  For example: "I'm not muscular enough…" Basically the opposite of annorexia.

    #77562
    cpbell0033944
    Participant

    Thanks Ratlaf!  I'm not quite sure what you meant about the offseason, though – none of the women carry enough bodyfat to have cardiovascular problems, I wouldn't have thought.

    #77563

    I wouldn't say that it can be a mental problem. For some maybe… Those who use steroids (seriously)… Those who sacrifice their feminity… Those, whos cl*ts are as big as a small d*ck… Etc…

    There are a few I can name: Renee Toney, Irene Andersen, etc…

    But there are those who are still huge, but sexy at the same time: Marja Lehtonen, Kristy Hawkins, Denise Masino…

    I think we need more of the second type…

    #77564
    Tonus
    Participant

    Bear in mind that I've only followed the bodybuilding scene from the few magazines that I purchase for art reference…

    I do not consider it a mental disorder, as much as I see it as the ambition to succeed that many people show in many different areas of life, but that we notice most clearly in sports.  For example, many baseball players will spend hours lifting weights, running sprints, fielding their position as a coach hits balls to them for hours, batting in a batting cage for hours (or throwing hundreds of pitches in simulated games), watching film of opposing players to discover weaknesses, and so on.  Anything that they can do to get even the slightest edge on an opponent, they will do it, to the point where it is obsessive.

    Personally, I agree with those who prefer less sharply defined and striated muscles.  I find the shape and size of a person's musculature to be the most impressive sight, not the winding veins and striated lines that are usually accompanied by a drawn and tight look on the face.  In the case of seeing a female bodybuilder, I find a shapely leg or arm or torso to be very attractive when I can see the general shape and fullness of the muscles, even if there is not much definition and separation.

    However, bodybuilding has developed (in my mind, at least) into a competition where you want to have the largest and fullest muscles along with the sharpest possible definition and separation.  Bulging veins are also considered a plus, it seems to me.  And when you combine that aesthetic with the desire to do whatever it takes to be better than the next person, people will go to unhealthy and dangerous lengths to reach that level.  I wish that bodybuilding contests were judged more on the general size and shape of muscles, so that someone who comes in cut to a razor sharp definition might actually be at a disadvantage over someone who dropped just enough fat to produce large and well rounded muscles without having to drain excessive water from their bodies.

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