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April 3, 2009 at 8:42 pm #82122
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ParticipantI was thinking, I wonder if they are Vulcans FBB. A vulvan is 3 times stronger than a human. So that mean they could lift 3 times as much. Does that mean they coould grow 3 times as muscle as a human or something along those lines??
April 3, 2009 at 8:56 pm #82123Seldom
ParticipantNo, their muscles are supposedly denser. So a vulcan would be 3 times as strong as a similarly-sized human. Being a desert predator, they are supposed to be stronger and faster than humans, though it is never made clear why this would be the case. They are, however, more vulnerable to cold. Also unclear why this would be, since deserts get mighty cold at night. Maybe the Vulcan desert is hot year-round.
April 3, 2009 at 9:37 pm #82124
AlexGKeymasterOutside of Jolene Blalock (T'Pol of Enterprise) sporting a lithe-lean physique, can't say as I can ever recall seeing any.
Star Trek V: The Final Fronteir did feature a female Klingon, Vixis (Spice Williams-Crosby) with prominently muscular arms and shoulders – of whom Chekhov made the off-comment in passing "nice muscles."
Side bar, Stargate SG-1's few stories about the Amazonian Jaffa, ironically featuring Jolene Blalock as Ishta their leader, had a few buffed-up women in the background, but you have look for them, they pass by so fast.
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)April 4, 2009 at 2:05 am #82125ParticipantI remeber that on stargate. I would have love to have recuirted those women for that show!
Outside of Jolene Blalock (T'Pol of Enterprise) sporting a lithe-lean physique, can't say as I can ever recall seeing any.
Star Trek V: The Final Fronteir did feature a female Klingon, Vixis (Spice Williams-Crosby) with prominently muscular arms and shoulders – of whom Chekhov made the off-comment in passing "nice muscles."
Side bar, Stargate SG-1's few stories about the Amazonian Jaffa, ironically featuring Jolene Blalock as Ishta their leader, had a few buffed-up women in the background, but you have look for them, they pass by so fast.
April 5, 2009 at 10:15 am #82126CaptMalcomReynolds
ParticipantI remember an artist on Wreck's old site (Coyote?) once did a picture of a buff Tpol. It was really cool.
May 19, 2009 at 10:05 pm #82127ParticipantGood point. So they may not do good at BB but at powelifting look out!
No, their muscles are supposedly denser. So a vulcan would be 3 times as strong as a similarly-sized human. Being a desert predator, they are supposed to be stronger and faster than humans, though it is never made clear why this would be the case. They are, however, more vulnerable to cold. Also unclear why this would be, since deserts get mighty cold at night. Maybe the Vulcan desert is hot year-round.
May 19, 2009 at 11:14 pm #82128ParticipantActually, many of the humanoid races in Star Trek are supposed to be stronger than humans. Andorian females are supposed to be stronger than normal human males; Cardassians, Klingons — well, that one makes sense. I think it goes along with generally poor script writing and the popular but misguided view that alien races would somehow necessarily be stronger than us (except the Ferengi).
May 20, 2009 at 5:51 am #82129
unkn0wnxParticipantKlingon females are automatically muscular.
Startrek universe would make very poor game (balance nightmare); human are terrible at everything.May 20, 2009 at 9:33 am #82130Number6
ParticipantI was under the impression that the planet Vulcan was larger/more massive than Earth, so the stronger gravity was the reason why Vulcans possessed higher muscle density. No idea about all those other aliens, but it certainly does seem like humans are frequently the physically inferior species.
I think one of the things about humans on Star Trek (and more explicitly stated on Babylon 5) is that, despite being less physically and scientifically advanced, we form communities of diverse individuals…and the unity-yet-diversity that human society promotes is stronger and better overall in the galactic scheme of things. It's a nicely optimistic outlook.
Though I liked the twist they used in Farscape: the human Crichton is inferior in every way to the aliens he interacts with, but when an adversary uses a special light to turn everyone paranoid, it's Crichton's lousy eyesight that gives him an advantage. Plus the fact that he's been coping with being flung into the middle of these aliens for quite some time, so he's also kinda better at dealing with craziness.
May 20, 2009 at 9:43 am #82131ParticipantThey are inconsistent on the Vulcan size issue. Sometimes the show says that Vulcan has a higher gravity, but then no humans ever have trouble getting around. I try to use facts that aren't internally inconsistent.
Interesting. I remember Delenn saying that on B5 but I didn't think about it as applied to Star Trek. I like the idea too, though I think that it is likely only social beings would have the combined willpower and brainpower to achieve starflight.
The Farscape aliens all make fun of Crighton for being inferior, but he always wins and keeps his sense of humor intact. Given how flawed everyone and every species on that show is, I think the appearance of human inferiority is much more a racial prejudice than any sort of fact. Plus, he's genetically compatible with the Peacekeepers and they are badass in a very inflexible sort of way.
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