Making mainstream muscle women

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  • #99051
    darkclaw91
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    Hi,

    I really want to pitch an animated series. Basically, I wrote a really crazy series which my friends seem to love (probably all the fun fetishes and fanservice I put in), which has a lot of things like ninjas, vampires, spies, buff female pirates and Amazons, in it yet is still dark and philosophical (in my opinion).

    If you noticed the “buff female pirates and Amazons”, congrats 🙂

    However, I worry that if I pitch the series to an animation company (I have a lot of contacts so it’s a slight possibility) they may not want to include the more muscular females. I mean obviously I think they’re hot, but I worry they’ll say something like: “A lot of people might not want buff women in the show, cut them out”.

    Anyone have tips on how to ensure I can justify including buff women in the show if on the off-chance it gets made?

    (For the record, I have a transforming Amazon who is a Fetish Fuel Station Attendant (read: bisexual, tall, buff, carries twin shotguns, tanned/bronzed skin, long red hair, buxom, and a lot more fetish-y material is included). I also have a buff Korean female pirate jewel thief with a cutlass, an eye patch and stunning beauty. I also have alien parasites which make people enact their true desires while giving them superhuman physical abilities, a desire to spread the parasites to others and oh yeah, adds about 300 pounds of muscle to them regardless of gender.)

    #99065
    huda
    Participant

    you can try to use the buffness of the women to show equality to the male characters, or have a few key characters who over time go from sticklike to buff to show their growth

    #99066
    Ashlee
    Participant

    tHE OTHER WAY IS PLAYING ON THE Producer fears,
    Like have one of the character sweet thin wisp of a girl and tranforms in to a sweet Muscled amazon, But not liking it.
    as a matter of fact the whole teams hates there powers and do not really want to save the world,Find it a bother in tring to get on with there lifes
    The key here is make the woman hot in both forms, Producers have a way of turing a muscled women in slobbering ,rage fill, MAN WOMAN.
    art will help sell the ideas
    ast some the artist her if they will submit concept art to help sell the points
    Good luck
    Boone was tring to sell is Squeeze Quad to cartoon network

    #99069
    darkclaw91
    Participant

    Ashlee wrote:

    The key here is make the woman hot in both forms

    Naturally, I portrayed all buff females as hot for the audience and the transforming Amazon is hot (and tall) in both forms. Not necessarily to all characters in-series, though the aforementioned bi Amazon gets in a relationship with someone. I figure that not everyone finds buff women in real life attractive (sadly; I really wish more people found them hot so there would be more buff women) so I didn’t make everyone fall head over heels for the buff females in my series, nor are all females in series buff.

    Then again, both the buff female pirate and Amazon have a lot of attractive features and provide a good amount of fanservice…so they’re still beautiful, but they don’t necessarily fit the stereotypical thin image of beauty some people have.

    Does anyone have suggestions/tips on writing a muscle growth episode though? I really wanted to do one. I have most of the series planned out, and somewhere in the fifth season, I have a parasitic alien race which “merges” with people and makes them enact their wildest desires as well as love fighting (to the point where fighting turns them on). It also gives them more than enough superhuman physical attributes to do so, along with 300 pounds of solid muscle and burns away their fat easily. To provide some alien-like features, their hair grows long and wild to their knees and becomes white, and their eyes turn gold.

    Clothes get damaged (gotta love fanservice), characters without inhibitions are explored…and oh yeah, due to the contagious effects of the parasites, pretty much a whole city (male and female) is shown as immensely buff (even some of the stereotypically “hot” female characters buff up) without inhibitions. On one hand, the buff superhuman city without inhibitions is kind of scary (think of what you would do if you had no morals whatsoever and lived solely for pleasure with superhuman powers and 300 extra pounds of muscles, plus loved to fight). On the other, at least to me, it’s kinda hot. Especially the buff females. It’s too bad it only lasts for one episode though (everyone goes back to normal afterwards, though if a character was buff before, at least they keep their original buffness)…

    Anyways, with all that, is there any way I could put that in an episode and still have us femuscle lovers AND the rest of the potential viewers love it? And maybe even make a few more femuscle lovers with it?

    #99071
    raylight
    Participant

    If you’re pitching to Cartoon Network, they want two things: TV-PG, and TV-MA (for Adult Swim). Plus AS likes keeping a tiny amount of fairly tame TV-14 anime around in Saturday nights.

    If you’re pitching to CN, that means you want an animation budget, and you’re going to need to make your series “mainstream”-enough for them to take a look. I would also probably suggest getting a few male leads (even if they’re surrounded by women) because CN is targeting boys right now, and you might have to tone down certain elements of your work.

    AS wants cheapo Flash-animated series and an emphasis on gross-out comedy. They are not interested in original action series.

    #99072
    darkclaw91
    Participant

    Would they (CN) take a 14+ action series? Also, can I at least keep the Amazon and the buff female pirate? Plus, I think one muscle growth episode isn’t too much…I mean it’s like one episode, right? …Maybe I’m trying to delude myself here 🙁

    By the way, I have quite a few male and female characters.

    Also, the best way I can describe the series is: Ghost in the Shell meets Darker Than Black meets Code Geass meets Batman: The Animated Series. With a lot of different fictional genres and types of characters (ranging from succubi to ninja vampires), fanservice and many different fetishes involved, though the most prominent is probably femuscle (though overall there isn’t too much to deter viewers not into it, in my opinion…okay, other than that one episode but still…).

    #99078
    TC2
    Participant

    I’ll keep this simple.

    If a show like George of the Jungle and Totally Spies can have muscle growth, you can easily pitch your series. Just find some kind of hook that doesn’t take it overly seriously, at least… not in the beginning.

    You can usually get muscular women in animation through comedy, but if they are recurring characters you can gradually shift them to a more serious tone.

    #99079
    darkclaw91
    Participant

    Thanks for the words of encouragement! I agree on that and I remember Totally Spies! was one of the first times I encounted FMG…my reaction was hard to remember, sorta like this I guess: :woohoo:

    I still need to get my artist to do some art for me and I need to finish my pitch bible, but I think I’m doing well and might pitch soon (probably during my reading week or during my summer break which starts in April).

    #99090
    raylight
    Participant

    The reason why I know what CN wants is because I know someone who works at Williams Street (and he’s just a techie, not enough to get you in). Right now WS is kinda in the doghouse at CN (the current heads do not like WS at all), and only Adult Swim’s ratings are keeping WS from losing control of Adult Swim.

    When you pitch the series, downplay the fetish element of it. Just pitch as this crazy, fun action series that involves every kind of cool character known to man and some other cool characters that we don’t know are cool yet.

    TV-PG lets you get away with a lot on CN now, actually. You can’t swear, but Generator Rex has had a lot of redshirt deaths, Sym-Bionic Titan has implied torture and Clone Wars has people getting killed all of the time. And Young Justice’s Greg Weisman has gone on the record stating that main characters are going to die in the first season. So violence and death is not a big issue.

    Plus, YJ has had its fair share of fanservice, though very subtle amounts (Cheshire and Artemis don’t have the most practical outfits). And we’ve had Mammoth and Blockbuster hulking out of their clothes already (though both TFs were male and disfiguring), as well as the more traditional Bane hulking out from Venom.

    #99096
    gokuman7
    Participant

    darkclaw91 wrote:

    Hi,

    I really want to pitch an animated series. Basically, I wrote a really crazy series which my friends seem to love (probably all the fun fetishes and fanservice I put in), which has a lot of things like ninjas, vampires, spies, buff female pirates and Amazons, in it yet is still dark and philosophical (in my opinion).

    If you noticed the “buff female pirates and Amazons”, congrats 🙂

    However, I worry that if I pitch the series to an animation company (I have a lot of contacts so it’s a slight possibility) they may not want to include the more muscular females. I mean obviously I think they’re hot, but I worry they’ll say something like: “A lot of people might not want buff women in the show, cut them out”.

    Anyone have tips on how to ensure I can justify including buff women in the show if on the off-chance it gets made?

    (For the record, I have a transforming Amazon who is a Fetish Fuel Station Attendant (read: bisexual, tall, buff, carries twin shotguns, tanned/bronzed skin, long red hair, buxom, and a lot more fetish-y material is included). I also have a buff Korean female pirate jewel thief with a cutlass, an eye patch and stunning beauty. I also have alien parasites which make people enact their true desires while giving them superhuman physical abilities, a desire to spread the parasites to others and oh yeah, adds about 300 pounds of muscle to them regardless of gender.)

    First of all congratulations on your goal to create your animated series. Quick question how do you picth an idea to a company? Do you shedule a meeting with the company to discuss you’re idea? I’m trying to do the same thing for a video game but how does it work?

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