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October 2, 2011 at 6:11 pm #103825phenomsParticipant
* is it clear that the site is a credit based business model where you purchase credits and unlock the videos to see the full length version? is there anything i could add to make that more clear?
Yes. Multiple things, the first being eye draw. Beyond “above the fold”, the eye will be naturally drawn to particular regions first, some longer than others, and some more scan passes* than others. Eye draw must not only be a consideration of your design’s visual aesthetic, but should be an intentional and directed aspect. This way visitors are both consciously and subconsciously led to not only what interests them, but also in where YOU want their attention.
*Scan passes: Reference to the rapid darting movements of the pupil that combined with “persistence of vision”** enable us to assemble in our minds the visual information we need and that are of interest.
**Persistence of Vision: Look it up!! 😉
That said, your two strongest eye draws on the present design are the artwork commissioned from Nema, and the video.
Your text is lost amid the babe flesh, real OR drawn. You may need to have a strong visual(s) on the front page of a graphic click-through(s) that lead to another page that allows better emphasis on text simply by de-emphasizing the babe flesh.
You have several missed opportunities in the video. Intermingle textual transitions between the scenes. Be certain to clearly introduce each model in the video by name so that when a visitor sees one they like, they know who they will want without ambiguity or guess work. Have textual transitions which inform visitors of information they will want to know right away (how much $), and of what you want them to know right away (credit based).
While you do spell it out clearly on the front page, I have visited your site multiple times while interacting with this thread, and until you asked this question, I never took notice of anywhere you happen to clearly say it is a credit based site until you asked it in here. Why? Because here, the emphasis is always on the text and on your site, my eyes went from babe flesh straight to the menus in the footer.
Something else concerning the eye draw of the video. You do not provide a way to pause or stop the video. Aside from auto-play (especially without an off switch) being poor netiquette, the constant movement is too distracting. No one will read anything you have taken the trouble to write on the front page because there are giant glistening boobies and rock hard feminine gyrating abdominals to be looked at. And also…. booooobiiiiiiiiessssssss……………. I forget what I was saying.
Ok not really.
Get the idea?
It’s clear that you are a knowledgeable person and I’m sure could share, contribute, and teach much, but without ingratiating yourself upon the community or becoming a part of it you will ultimately be passing up on a tremendous amount of potential attention AND sales.
i’d certainly like to be part of the community and share, contribute and teach anything i can…
thanks
mark
Wonderful.
My first question then is, what would you say are your strongest areas of technical expertise? Are you the videographer? The editor of the videos? Are you a tech geek, a marketing guru? Those are just as examples. I’ll let you fill in the real answers.
Kudos on responding to this thread and not simply using our participation and the site’s traffic to elevate your page rank. Also kudos for signing your name. Those 2 simple little acts are a good start on becoming a part of this community. 🙂
Incidentally, are you an actual connoisseur of femuscle or is this all just about making a go of a business targeting our particular little market share?
-Phenoms
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www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenom_fett/index00.htmOctober 3, 2011 at 4:54 am #103829phenomsParticipantWhoops.
I forgot to mention a few other things.
Concerning the auto-play video, the most aggravating thing about it is that if I look at another page on the site and then hit the back button. The video RE-plays. The same goes for if I were to hit the reload/refresh button. Set a cookie to see if the video has already been played. You can then use that same space to feature some different kind of static content like a promo or discount because the video has already created eye draw for you, the eye will still jump to that area of the page. Putting new content there in it’s place will increase the attention of anything occupying that space. Of course, provide a screenshot thumbnail link so those that still want to view the video can still get to it. Links in that area will become a tracking goldmine. If you are tracking which links are clicked on your site, you should see overwhelming favor go to links in that area. Having 2 promos there will tell you which promo content/feature your visitors are most interested in. Tracking clicks to return to the preview video will also tell you what kind of interest it is garnering and how much pull it has to draw visitors back to it for additional viewing.
Also, two sites that you MUST know about and read regularly are A List Apart and UX Movement. View this article about round versus sharp corners at UX Movement. If that does not convince you that UX Movement (and A List Apart) is a must read, and that my eye draw suggestions have merit, its doubtful that anything will.
My Deviant Art Page (old stuff):
phenoms.deviantart.comMy Booru Gallery (new stuff):
phenoms.booru.orgAlso
www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenoms/index00.htm
www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenom_fett/index00.htmOctober 5, 2011 at 11:34 am #103866Mark PetersonParticipanthi,
oh wow.. that’s a lot to take in… you certainly know design!!
i haven’t seen the UX Movement site before.. lots of great articles on there… i’ll definitely work in rounded corners and use more in-page links!
as for me i’m pretty much just a computer geek with some limited design, shooting and editing skills… i’ve always been into female muscle and i’m pretty sure 99% of everyone shooting photos and videos of female muscle girls do it to meet the women… so i figured i’d create a site as an expensive hobby to meet girls… and it works! so now that i’ve got the girl i’m focusing on the marketing and better design to try to get a little financial return on the investment… though my traffic is soooooo far off from the big female muscle sites i might never break even…
but i’d still like to continue to have a nice site with solid content and good design so i’m taking in all the feedback i can to make the site more user friendly and as contemporary as possible…
so if you or anyone has more advice on making a better more usable site please let me know!
once i get the new design dialed in i’ll run it by and see what you think!
thanks
mark
October 6, 2011 at 9:42 am #103894phenomsParticipantMark, check your site link in your signature. It does not resolve properly.
oh wow.. that’s a lot to take in… you certainly know design!!
Thank you. You see what I mean about sharing what you have to offer with the community? This sort of thing is usually something you may see me helping with because I do have the background and aptitude for it.
i haven’t seen the UX Movement site before.. lots of great articles on there… i’ll definitely work in rounded corners and use more in-page links!
Admittedly UX Movement is a rather recent resource for me as well. But it, like A List Apart epitomize everything I believe is good and necessary in the process of design and development.
as for me i’m pretty much just a computer geek with some limited design, shooting and editing skills…
I would say you are being modest in your assessment of your own skills. I noticed that you had also covered your legal bases with the Record Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement and RTA Verified Label. The production quality in your preview video is leaps and bounds above many other sites.
i’m focusing on the marketing and better design to try to get a little financial return on the investment… though my traffic is soooooo far off from the big female muscle sites i might never break even…
You appear to have all the right tools (literally and figuratively) to make a go of this venture and have it exceed your expectations. But it will take time and dedication to reach that level.
but i’d still like to continue to have a nice site with solid content and good design so i’m taking in all the feedback i can to make the site more user friendly and as contemporary as possible…
so if you or anyone has more advice on making a better more usable site please let me know!
Mark, I could easily look closer and closer at your site and offer up many more suggestions. The only question is how far down the rabbit’s hole would you like that to go?
I had asked you a question that you never answered…
[quote=”HardbodyVideo” post=103429]does anyone have any constructive feedback for updating the site? we are looking to make it the best female muscle site possible so any feedback is appreciated…
This is a rather vague request. “Best female muscle site” does not communicate what you want to accomplish or what will set you apart.[/quote]
once i get the new design dialed in i’ll run it by and see what you think!
You should take screen captures of your designs to watch your own evolution. Personally I try to archive all code, content, design, and media from every incarnation of every site. I can’t tell you how many times I have re-referenced my old archives to refresh my memory or steal code to re-use it.
i’ve always been into female muscle and i’m pretty sure 99% of everyone shooting photos and videos of female muscle girls do it to meet the women… so i figured i’d create a site as an expensive hobby to meet girls… and it works! so now that i’ve got the girl
OH!!! DO TELL!!! :woohoo:
My Deviant Art Page (old stuff):
phenoms.deviantart.comMy Booru Gallery (new stuff):
phenoms.booru.orgAlso
www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenoms/index00.htm
www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenom_fett/index00.htmOctober 7, 2011 at 9:19 am #103914Mark PetersonParticipantlots of feedback there!! i sent you a message…
when i wrote:
we are looking to make it the best female muscle site possible so any feedback is appreciated…
i was thinking in broad terms as to the site design and usability as well as content.. i want the site to look good while being easy to navigate and find the content.. but i was also looking for feedback on what type of content do people want to see more of…
mark
October 7, 2011 at 1:05 pm #103921TC2ParticipantWhen it comes to content, I know that a lot of folks here would appreciate getting footage of the more elusive FBB’s.
Nicole Ball for instant, you really don’t see too many photoshoots of her. Too bad this site wasn’t around during Cindy Phillp’s FBB days, she would have been a great addition to the website!
Now when you say content, I’m assuming the types of videos shot? It really depends what you’re comfortable delivering. There’s a lot of varied tastes on the forum including more surreal items such as female shirt ripping or muscle growth on the FBB’s.
But then that makes your website go more into a fetish territory, which is probably not what you’re aiming for. So far, shower scenes, flexing, semi nudes, and footage like that still I would think would be popular, but I don’t have any sales figures to back up that statement.
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