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February 25, 2006 at 4:05 pm #23229
JimmyDimples
ParticipantI wanted to file this as a poll, but didn't find that feature in this new flavor forum. So I'll put it as a straight question.
While I was jamming to Lemon Demon's Geeks in Love and The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, I know that many of us are comic/web/TV/film nuts in the genre of strong female, but this is in adoration of the physically strong, who would otherwise termed: a jock.
Jock and geeks… ne'er the twain shall meet. Or…?
What do you think? Are Amaz0ids defacto geeks, or what?
February 25, 2006 at 7:56 pm #23230Anonymous
GuestI don't know what Lemon Demon's Geeks in Love and The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny are, but I think jocks and geeks would be prohibited from coming to terms based on a mutual "adoration" of the physically strong, since, well–don't jocks (of any sex) tend to look down on the weak?
And you're only a geek about something when and if you "geek out" (which I define as obsessing to the extreme of ridiculousness) about it. For example, I'd look at someone who says, "I only like women with muscles!", (especially a young man) as a geek for being blindly "devoted" to that image, not for simply being a member of a forum dedicated to it.
February 25, 2006 at 9:51 pm #23231btx
ParticipantWe're not geeks. We're schmoes. 👿 😀
Seriously, I think some distinctions could be made. A fan is someone who has a committed interest in a subject (Movies, Comics, Tech, Amazons ) and is probably a collector of paraphanaleia, but is able to "leave it at home" (or in the closet). A geek is someone who goes to the next level and tries to "live the life" 24/7. He/She has an insatiable appetite for the subject, possesses insane knowledge of personal details and minutiae and tries to maintain "personal" contact with the subject bordering on stalking. I know this sounds extreme, but I think "geeks" are extreme in their commitments ( And since "geek" rhymes with "reek" the same can be said for their hygene ).
Look, I happen to think most members on this board fall within the "fan" category, but I agree with Jimmy that our obsessions tend to cross many "geek" genres especially, comics, toons and scifi.
My 2c.
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February 25, 2006 at 11:41 pm #23232fbbfan
ParticipantGood topic thread…
Well, I have always considered myself a nerd of sort, love my video games,
my comics, action figures etc…Heck I still watch cartoons and star trek.
And I have always admired, and have been a fan of female muscle and strength
for a long time….At one point though, I took a long hard work in the mirror and realized the strength
I was admiring, was not being applied to my own life, I was skinny and out of shape,
I kinda figured how would I be able to attract those that are in shape already? Since
I am one of those that are attracted to the fit, athletic look?So I have been working out consistantly for the last 4 years, and I do not consider
myself looking like a geek…My healthy and physical lifestyle these past four years have pushed my level from being
just a geek, all in all, it probably is just your personal state of mind. I don't just sit at home
downloading sci-fi geek stuff (I do download my share though LOL), but also I go out and run,
hike, lift weights, and enjoy all the fit ladies here in my beach area.Good topic thread, very valid insight.
February 26, 2006 at 1:57 am #23233JimmyDimples
ParticipantGood point on keeping yourself healthy, fbbfan. Maybe I'd better get my doughbody into shape…
And while there are muscleheads that look down there noses at the less bodily fit, I ran into my share of the digerati and the "geekier than thou" on the web. Webheads that sneer at you because you still haven't gotten broadband or a deck that's faster than a 2.4 GHz Celeron, or what all.
I guess it all boils down to attitude, and whether you want to give the lesser a sneer down, or a hand up.
Oh, and to Mean Dean, here are the links to Lemon Demon's flash videos: prepare to geek out! B-D
February 26, 2006 at 4:45 am #2323400tree
ParticipantI think that this is a question that can't be answered with a simple one or two sentence answer. You are only what you precieve your self as. I am different than most people around where I live but hey who isn't. I have many likes and hobbies that are "odd" to others. Gaming of all kinds (board games, video games, table top RPG and no that doesn't stand for rocket propelled grenaid, sports, table top wargames), art (I love to draw and I'm not to shabby if i do say so myself), movies (a rather large collection), miniature building, comic books, and action figures. These are the things that are margenal in small town America but I wouldn't classify myself as a geek.
To look at me I am reather manly. I stand around six feet tall and weigh around 235Lbs but I'm not fat. True I could tone up a bit but I have a solid strong physque do to the fact that I work In a small oldtime lumberyard. It's been in buiseness for over 60 years and has resisted change meaning it's my job to cut up, and to lift heavy stuff and put it away. I get paid use power tools all day. Can't get much more manly then that.
Now I'm not an uber stud like my dad wanted me to be but he's a two tour Veitnam vet who was on the front lines. His first tour was as a weapons specialist on a tank and his second was as an E6 infintry sargent. He wanted me to join the army and I broke a long line of family tradition when I said no. Nothig against the army its just not for me.
There realy isn't a group that I fit into and of course on boards like this I could go on for about a hundred more paragraphs and still only give you a slite look at who I am and what I'm about but that would be a long read that I doubt anyone here has the time for and it would probably be the same everyother member of this board.
I say be yourself. That's all you need. Who cares what others think of you. God knows I get asked why I do the things I do and like what I like all the time. And the answer is always the same. Because I'm me and not somebody else that's why.February 26, 2006 at 7:13 am #23235Dr.Otto
ParticipantTrue that geeks are often considered 'outside' popular social circles and are thus often more receptive to those who find themselves ostracized by popular culture, but I think it's less about being a geek and more about being open to people that are outside the societal norm.
February 26, 2006 at 7:53 am #23236stimpy
ParticipantI wanted to file this as a poll, but didn't find that feature in this new flavor forum. So I'll put it as a straight question.
While I was jamming to Lemon Demon's Geeks in Love and The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny, I know that many of us are comic/web/TV/film nuts in the genre of strong female, but this is in adoration of the physically strong, who would otherwise termed: a jock.
Jock and geeks… ne'er the twain shall meet. Or…?
What do you think? Are Amaz0ids defacto geeks, or what?
Well, to paraphrase a former U.S. President, "It depends on what your definition of 'geek' is…"
When I was a kid (in the Mezozoic Era…), I was always classified as "smart." Somehow, this branded me, even among adults, as not only a "spaz," but also a "gay boy." I found this especially ironic, as the smart girls I knew were branded as "lezzies." To this day, I fail to understand what correlation there is between intelligence and homosexuality. But I digress.
For me, I think the above is what attracted me to tall, intelligent, and/or athletic women in the first place. Especially in early adolescence, the tall girls were "uncool." Non-cheerleader athletic girls were "unfeminine." The smart girls were regarded as "lezzies" or far worse. Therefore, the girls who were tall, smart, AND athletic occupied a special place in teen Hell. As such, these were the girls I was drawn to the most.
Even into college and adulthood, I continued to have a thing for tall, athletic women (intelligence is a non-negotiable requirement in my book). (un)Fortunately for me, these women became more accepted and popular, especially with the advent of Cindy Crawford, Gabby Reece, et al. as sex symbols. This made dating rather awkward for me, as the women I was drawn to suddenly rated campus rock stars and Quarterbacks, while I held geeky Physics Major status. I have a volume of amusing pictures and rejection letters around here somewhere, if my wife hasn't found them and thrown them out yet… 😉
So I guess my answer to your question is maybe yes, but not for the reason you think.
February 26, 2006 at 12:46 pm #23237The Muffin man
ParticipantOff-topic, but Stimpy is the best forumer ever for having an avatar and username that are the same guy.
Good job. And yes it was necessary for me to publically tell him.
February 26, 2006 at 3:48 pm #23238Hunter S Creek
ParticipantI think that the demographics for Amazon fans in general most likely reflect a very wide range of people.
Now, if you are asking about Amazon fans who join and frequent web sites and chat rooms dedicated to such women; then I think that the demographics probably are skewed a bit more toward the geeky side of the population.Tschuss!
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