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June 4, 2005 at 10:27 pm #5396Axel3.14Participant
One of the problems I have with standard superhero comics is the goody-two-shoes morality. I mean, why is the Joker still alive? He’s killed hundreds of people, and every time Batman locks him up, he gets out. If Batman had a lick of sense, he would have ended it a long time ago (which is the theme of Miller’s mid-80s Dark Knight Returns).
There was a Batman movie in the early Nineties in which the Joker was killed, but it was criticized from deviating from canon.
Does this mean you like protagonists like Frank Castle, Lingster?
June 5, 2005 at 1:23 pm #5397PugParticipantDon’t over-generalize – we (The FMG fanbase) don’t have a goody two shoes problem – I do. Which is fine – not all stories are written with me as the target audience. However, if someone is writing a story with the thought that "Pug (or DCmatthews) might like this" in mind, it’s worth mentioning that the ‘sociopathic evil’ style of story has avid fans, and we’re not it – <G>. Marknew stretches my appreciation of that style of story just about as far as it’s liable to stretch – <G>.
Not being sure how many others had that problem, I advanced that as a possible theory as to why what seems to be a well-written story isn’t more popular – the mere fact that a couple people vehemently disagree means another innocent beautiful theory was mugged by a single unforgiving fact – film at ’11 – <G>
So, by all means – enjoy – <G>
June 6, 2005 at 4:30 pm #5398Mark NewmanParticipantI’ll refrain from commenting until Rick posts the last part of his revision of the story.
Please!
June 6, 2005 at 9:37 pm #5399rick powersParticipantThanks for the feedback.
I am not all that enamored with violent characters, either. Maybe that’s why I have the ‘good guys’ win out in the end. Plus, that’s my general philosophy on life in the real world – the good guys usually win out over the bad guys. Sort of Pollyannish of me (is that a word?) but that’s my world view.
The whole Nazi thing was just a throwback to my misspent youth (at least as my mother would see it) spending too many summer afternoons reading comic books. Kind of injecting my current fantasies into the old time comics. I included the gory parts (which I usually shy away from) to make the evil even eveler (I keep making up words, soory) and so the response to it even bigger. I suppose that if this were to be a comic book, the Iron Nazi would have kept some of her clothing on, swung the halftrack at the soldiers knocking them unconscious and just severly wounded Major Victory.
(But I have to admit, I thought the snap crackle pop line was a little bit humorous – gallows humor perhaps)Marknew, I really didn’t fundamentally change anything in the second part of the story from what mdvr posted, except like I said, my blunder over the city for the destination of the train at the end.
Thanks again for the input.
-Rick
June 7, 2005 at 8:30 am #5400DavidParticipantI enjoyed this story once again.
I don’t think Nazi’s are a bad villain. They are still out there. Whether it is some 80 year old original grumbling for the good old days or some Neo-Nazi screaming "White POwer!" they are out there. It’s no more far fetched than thinking of using a corporation as a villain or a politician or a clergyman. There are plenty of ‘evil’ people to go around so if you can come up with the characterization why not? The thing about truly scarey villains is they usually don’t think they are wrong.June 8, 2005 at 2:04 am #5401fasolaParticipanti`ve to adimit that i liked this story. i had the same problem that with many other stories, it was a bit too long. you see, i`m not from an english speaking country, so it takes more time for me to read the stories, but it liked it a lot.
the fact ta it envolves nazis, is not a problem for me, or the god matter.
i think it was a different way to produce FMG.but the bottom line is, i liked it, just like all of the stories from the power company.
Fasola
BTW, rick where is the third part of the Black cat story?
just wondering
June 8, 2005 at 11:34 am #5402Mark NewmanParticipantI hate to say anything to discourage anyone from writing any kind of FMG story. Especially not the Power Company.
But for me, the Nazi element got in the way of my really enjoying it.
I guess we all have our sensitive areas. And I’m sure I’ve stepped on a few that others have, so this is not a complaint. It just didn’t work for me.
By the way, Rick. I’ve used a sister company to yours in my next story for Workshop 1.4 for the Superwomenmania Forum. It’s called The Power Source. A mysterious outfit offering the gift of superpowers to one, who will be called the Super One.
Watch for it in July!
Mark
June 8, 2005 at 5:03 pm #5403Zespara AlatharParticipantThe way I look at is this… it was a period piece set in WWII so naturally there has to be Nazi (unless the setting was in the Pacific). It had a very nostalgic comic book feel to it and it had FMG. All-in-all a very nice story.
The references to God doesn’t bother me in the least bit. We have tales involving demons, devils and such so why not show the other side?
Z
June 18, 2005 at 8:40 pm #5404recycle456ParticipantGotta agree with Z on this. Just me FMG!
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