[Fett]

P.S. Fett – the WB bloke wants Bullock?  She's too old for the role, surely?!

Ummm… Masschine said that, not I.

As for Bullock – who the fuck knows. They'll want someone 'sellable'. That means attractive in a conventional teenage masturbatory sense and public figure. Just be thankful Halle Berry is off the scene, or I bet she'd be Wonder Woman.

It's best not to ask my opinion. To me, all these superhero franchises are the same as watching the stripmining of rainforests. I just see so much potential continually, and unrelentingly wasted that I can't actually allow myself to care anymore.

I was looking forward to WW because Whedon did Angel, Buffy, and Firefly, and I love all three. So I was looking forward to it not as WW, but as a new Whedon film. With him off, I'm sinking back in groaning apathy and that's that.

[cpbell0033944]

Ummm… Masschine said that, not I.

As for Bullock – who the fuck knows. They'll want someone 'sellable'. That means attractive in a conventional teenage masturbatory sense and public figure. Just be thankful Halle Berry is off the scene, or I bet she'd be Wonder Woman.

It's best not to ask my opinion. To me, all these superhero franchises are the same as watching the stripmining of rainforests. I just see so much potential continually, and unrelentingly wasted that I can't actually allow myself to care anymore.

I was looking forward to WW because Whedon did Angel, Buffy, and Firefly, and I love all three. So I was looking forward to it not as WW, but as a new Whedon film. With him off, I'm sinking back in groaning apathy and that's that.

Whoops, sorry Fett – my error!

[Holiday]

Come, come Holliday, you're doing the man down a bit here.  If he had serious differences with the way that Warner Brothers wanted the film to go, then there were bound to be differences.  What evidence do you have to state that he COULDN'T deliver?  If WB wanted some skinny teenybopper starlet to bring in the ratings, would you, in Whedon's position, go along with it without putting-up a fight?  I'd suggest that you wouldn't.  It's probably best that he's left, as a difference in opinion would only have affected the finished film.

I don't owe that man anything. He owed US real progress! He didn't deliver, so WB let him go. Meanwhile, outside their Hall of Justice, other superhero  films have made steady progress. We're getting Ghost Rider, Iron Man, and now there's an Incredible Hulk project with guaranteed  villains! Whedon couldn't convince WB into accepting his script after two years. So he couldn't deliver. Strangely enough his Buffy Season 8 is ready to roll from Dark Horse! Harry Potter 6 could be out before WW!

This says two things to me.  Firstly, it seems as though she was his first choice for the role.  Given her looks, apparent personality and intelligence, and her shapely (though not particularly muscular) and statuesque body, I'd say she was a good pick (especially if she could have been persuaded to hit the free weights).  Secondly, the way he says "Sorry, Cobes" suggests to me that he knows damn well that WB aren't going to give her the part.  Unfortunately, my gut instinct says that they favour Lohan (there, I plucked-up the courage to type her name properly).  If so, I think his decision and misgivings are PERFECTLY justified.

So he made a final decision but he couldn't promote his script. No script, no greenlight, so no casting. This isn't the project where you can start with one actress and then make the script. Tarantino did "Kill Bill" for Uma because "Kill Bill" was Quentin's own creation.

[AlexG]

It's best not to ask my opinion. To me, all these superhero franchises are the same as watching the stripmining of rainforests. I just see so much potential continually, and unrelentingly wasted that I can't actually allow myself to care anymore.

Nicely said Fett – your comment here pretty much sums up my own opinion on any attempts at live-action interpretations of the superheroic comic genre.  I dread at what they might do with a She-Hulk movie . . .  >:(

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[Fett]

C'est la vie. 🙁

[cpbell0033944]

I don't owe that man anything. He owed US real progress! He didn't deliver, so WB let him go. Meanwhile, outside their Hall of Justice, other superhero  films have made steady progress. We're getting Ghost Rider, Iron Man, and now there's an Incredible Hulk project with guaranteed  villains! Whedon couldn't convince WB into accepting his script after two years. So he couldn't deliver. Strangely enough his Buffy Season 8 is ready to roll from Dark Horse! Harry Potter 6 could be out before WW!

So he made a final decision but he couldn't promote his script. No script, no greenlight, so no casting. This isn't the project where you can start with one actress and then make the script. Tarantino did "Kill Bill" for Uma because "Kill Bill" was Quentin's own creation.

I see your point, but my interpretation of what you're saying is that, if WB wanted Wonder Woman played by Nicole Ritchie wearing 14th-Century knight's armour which she removes to reveal a bra and panties, then Whedon should have respectfully tugged his forelock and written it so, because the Studio is God and can do no wrong. >:(  All I'm saying is that you can't expect someone to gaily abandon his artistic principles and personal beliefs (see the video on YouTube of a speech Whedon made explaining why he respects strong women and why he writes powerful female lead characters) because some overweight executive in WB sees the chance to make an extra million dollars filling the cinemas with screaming 11 year-old tweenagers whose knowledge of WW is less even than mine.  The delays were patently down to negotiations between Whedon and Warner Brothers over the style of the film.  Anyway, my philosophy on life is "If a job's worth doing, it's worth doing well, and that means taking time over something if necessary to get it right", and I suspect that Joss Whedon shares that view.  I don't think that any great project should be rushed because the Great American PublicTM can't summon the patience to wait for a good film.  Rubbish today, or quality tomorrow?  I'll take quality tomorrow, thanks. 🙂

Oh, and Fett and Alex – I agree.  I think that a talented individual like Whedon could have made a good film of WW, but, in general, I think it's difficult for studios to accept that you can't churn them out like the cliched romantic comedies that clutter the cinema screens these days.  Hence, the result is dross, unless it's animated.

[Holiday]

There's a new JLA animation in production. Lucy Lawless voiced WW. Didn't take them long to get that going, did it?

[AlexG]

There's a new JLA animation in production. Lucy Lawless voiced WW. Didn't take them long to get that going, did it?

Any links for further info?

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[cpbell0033944]

Any links for further info?

Surely a much better way of bringing Wonder Woman to the big screen, don't you think?

[Holiday]

Any links for further info?

http://www.lucylawless.info/movies/justiceleague/index.php

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0902272/

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