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June 12, 2005 at 8:52 am #3701David C. MatthewsParticipant
Say, y’all… I’d been to http://www.bumwine.com and I’d been thinkin’…
What kind of villains can you come up with these names?
Thunderbird
Night Train
Wild Irish Rose
Mad Dog 20/20
CiscoI think they’d make quite a bad guy team… I’ll talk more next time.
Interesting that you think of these as villain names, yet the first inspiration I got from the first name, Thunderbird, was a superheroine.
Specifically, an (American) Indian princess (okay, I was watching Disney’s Pocahontas recently) who possesses weather-control powers similar to X-Men’s Storm.
As for the others… I ‘ll leave them for others. (Except to say that "Wild Irish Rose" could be the leader of a crime syndicate; a much younger, sultrier, sexier (and female, and Irish) version of Don Corleone or Tony Soprano. No superpowers, but a powerful personality that can be by turns aggressively hostile or irresistably seductive.)
June 12, 2005 at 9:22 am #3702AshleeParticipantWell Its better than fighting the creeps I have to fight like Jism King
and THE FART, the Vibrator,The BOOBS,Queen Amazon,whip mistress, "sigh" what a life!June 12, 2005 at 9:29 am #3703JimmyDimplesParticipant
Interesting that you think of these as villain names, yet the first inspiration I got from the first name, Thunderbird, was a superheroine.Specifically, an (American) Indian princess (okay, I was watching Disney’s Pocahontas recently) who possesses weather-control powers similar to X-Men’s Storm.
I dunno… according to Bumwine.com’s page on T-Bird, that stuff ain’t NOBODY’s hero. It’s a force of evil, through and through.
And wasn’t Thunderbird a Marvel X-Man that had already died one issue after his debut?
June 12, 2005 at 6:04 pm #3704The_Pimp_NeonBlackParticipantFor a villianess that Dyna could fight, you cannot go past the classic "seductress/controller" villianess, but do not resort to cliches such as pheramones or simple magic charms.
Here is a thought: if the powers of the so-called Ancient Gods can be bestowed (like Athena bestowed upon Deena to make Dyna), can they also not be stolen?
What is, many years ago, a woman called Helena (after Helen of Troy -one of the great ancient beauties) somehow managed to steal the Love/Sexual/Beauty based powers of Aphrodite for her own corrupted means -that is to remain forever youthful and beautiful (she looks like a reverse Aphrodite, with long jet black hair, dark eyes and pale skin: a more deadly form of beauty, though still with the classic bust and hips) but she finds, after time. that she can control the Hearts of men and cloud their minds. But, in her rage and wisdom, Aphrodite cursed Helena’s power to fail against the strong willed (male or female) and they are to be premently broken when her victim (any man or woman that she controls) is confronted by their one true love (be it a person, object, notion, metaphysical personifaction, etc).
So, Dyna’s dilemma fighting Helena would be releasing her slaves from her control without hurting them and, worst of all, Dyna finds Helena is unwittingly control her boyfriend and Dyna is torn betwix revealing her true identity to him in order to save him and risk being discovered by Helena and her other foes or defeat Helena through other means and methods.
This is were another idea comes into play: that of Dyna having a sidekick and allies who asist her. Also in possession of God-like powers.
Her propsed (later) sidekick is called Herma -a former street thief who Dyna (unwitting) set on the right track and who has been blessed by the powers of the God-messanger (and also former theif) Hermes. Herma has the power of speed and limited flight (in the form of extended jumps and levetation) and she also relies on her streetsmarts to save her neck whenever Dyna can’t. She is cocky and argumentative but loyal to Dyna, who slowly warms to her over time. It is pretty much the cliched sidekick idea, but I’s am sure that you make something far more original of it, dear David.
For allies, I’s have considered four. The first is Clara The Huntress, avatar of Diana and based in Europe but often comes to America in pursuit of Ares’ men and schemes as well as other Rogue Gods and Criminals. She is not as strong as Dyna but far more athletic and agile. She acts grudging and jealously towards Dyna, believing she is wasting the power given to her by hiding it away and trying to live a normal life (you can use this as a means for Dyna to justify her lifestyle), but she always helps her in the end (though Dyna helps her more often than not). Her appearance is more tradional Amazon in style, split-skirt, breastplate armour and a transformable bow and arrow as her weapons but she has a Greek/Eastern European look in terms of her face (a sharp beauty, like Suzana Kornikova) with dark eyes and hair.The 2nd two allies for Dyna are the twin children of Hades (God/Guardian of the Underworld) and Persephone (Goddes of Spring), Hiros (male) and Arados (female), reborn in mortal form so they can help stop the machinations of the Rogue Gods (such as Ares) and aid humanity in anyway they can. Spending a few thousand years within the walls of Dis (castle-home of Hades & Persephone), they have developed a curious afinity with people and, after listening to cries of the ancient souls who still reside within The Underworld of Hades (remembering that the Greek Underworld is not any like our modern version of Hell but rather a multifascited place with the Stigian Pits as Puninshment and the Ellysium Fields as Paradise all within) and to the visions of the Orecles, they have discovered a plot against the mortal realm and have vowed to save it. Both have, thanks to their parentage, powers of both nature and the Dead. Hiros is the more active of the two and has the retained his father’s ability to turn invisble at will as well as summon Ancient Spirits to aid him (though being in mortal form quickly drains him of his energy when doing either) as well as possessing limited weather control powers (such as summoning rain, snow, wind as well) while Arados is the more contemplative and has the power to control and communicate with planets and animals as well as being able to draw peoples mortal souls from out their living bodies at will (though being mortal means she has less control over this power and she can accidently hurt and kill people when she gives into her urges and emotions). Their appearance is based upon the notion of the Taiji (Yin Yang from Daoism), Hiros wears mainly white clothes with black trim and has black hair and totally black eyes whilst Arados wears all black but has white hair and eyes.
The last ally is simply called Nemesis and is based upon the Ancient Greek myth of a being or thing that is the Earthly personication of the God’s Wrath or Anger directed against the wicked or unjust. The Nemesis would most likely be an alien robot of some kind that Ares is trying to gain control of for his own evil scheme but it has bonded with Dyna and her quest for Justice and wants to be free of the guilt and bondage of serving the Will of the Gods.
Well, there you have them.
It is hoped that you at least find one of these ideas useful in your creations.
Good luck with all your work, dear David.Peace
The Pimp NeonBlackJune 13, 2005 at 9:28 am #3705David C. MatthewsParticipantAnd wasn’t Thunderbird a Marvel X-Man that had already died one issue after his debut?
Could be; I never read much X-Men after Neal Adams quit doing the art 😉
June 13, 2005 at 9:41 am #3706David C. MatthewsParticipantTo The Pimp NeonBlack –
WOWZERS!! Those are enough ideas to keep the series going for years, if I can just overcome my deep-seated desire to keep Dyna a "solo" act. I also like the idea "if these powers can be bestowed, can they not also be stolen?"
This is some good stuff, Pimp (may I call you "Pimp"?)
June 13, 2005 at 5:52 pm #3707The_Pimp_NeonBlackParticipantTo The Pimp NeonBlack –
WOWZERS!! Those are enough ideas to keep the series going for years, if I can just overcome my deep-seated desire to keep Dyna a "solo" act. I also like the idea "if these powers can be bestowed, can they not also be stolen?"
This is some good stuff, Pimp (may I call you "Pimp"?)
You are indeed most welcome for the ideas, dear David. Think of them as merely a tiny way to repay one who has give so much to so many over the years.
And I’s can understand your desire to keep Dyna a "solo act", as you put it, but it does not help having other characters to fall back on in times of need (either Dyna’s need or your own as a writer/creator).
And you may call I ‘Pimp’ if you so desire. It is the prefered moniker. Although the true and the familiar is ‘Neon’. Address in which ever form and fashion you feel most comfortable with. It matters not to I.
But again, thank you. For all that you have given us.
Peace
The Pimp NeonBlackJune 14, 2005 at 4:31 am #3708RichardParticipantTo my recolection the original Thunderbird was one of the New X-Men that fought the mutant island Kracatoa ( or some such name) and freed the original X-Men, he died a few issues later fighting Count Nefarious. His younger brother would later take the name and join x-factor he has super streangth.
June 15, 2005 at 12:40 am #3709AshleeParticipantYeaaaaa I can’t wait to see her adventures.
Are you going to submite to LHART? Or White lighting comics?
I loved the Muscle growth comic you did for LH art where the 2 little girls, put FMG serum in to the water supply and all the women got big and Muscley in town.June 15, 2005 at 7:35 am #3710The Muffin manParticipantYeaaaaa I can’t wait to see her adventures.
Are you going to submite to LHART? Or White lighting comics?
I loved the Muscle growth comic you did for LH art where the 2 little girls, put FMG serum in to the water supply and all the women got big and Muscley in town.I agree with your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Also, link?
And if it’s any consolation, Ashlee, I’ll whip up a supersuit and be your first non-sexual, non-flatuance enemy. And I promise to not grope you.
….outside of our epic struggles.
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