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November 30, 2008 at 12:54 am #33292jdfanParticipant
Why does she have two paysites? I'm confused. Which is best? Seems a bit of a rip-off really. Am I supposed to join both? Probably won't be joining either as a result.
November 30, 2008 at 5:27 pm #33293cpbell0033944ParticipantWhy does she have two paysites? I'm confused. Which is best? Seems a bit of a rip-off really. Am I supposed to join both? Probably won't be joining either as a result.
From what I've seen as a non-paying fan, oanafbb.com is more biographical, whereas musclepowerbeauty.com is a little…raunchier. 😉
November 30, 2008 at 6:19 pm #33294AlexGKeymasterWhy does she have two paysites? I'm confused.
Answer, simply put: to maximize the bottom line.
You can't really blame her, it's a smart move, considering the fact that outside of the on-line environment there's almost zero opportunities for uberbuffed muscle chix to make any money to support themselves within the industry as bodybuilders, fitness, etal. It's not a cheap lifestyle, by any stretch of the imagination – i.e. just ask Joanna Thomas, Nikki Fuller, or Tazzie Colomb.
I might add, yrs back Denise Masino went a similar route, had a personal website for her truly devoted fans, and of course, Muscle Elegance Magazine website, which offered a wider range of buffed babes willing to go au naturel. Nevertheless, if you wanted content with Denise, she made certain there was plenty of nudes of her for her MEM customers, too. 8)
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)December 1, 2008 at 2:27 am #33295BlackKusanagiParticipantIf I had a lot of money, I wouldn't mind hooking her up…shes a great athlete. :3
December 1, 2008 at 3:16 am #33296ReasonParticipantElena's is the only FBB paysite I'm a member of. I truly consider it an honour to support her, mainly because she is against using steroids, which I believe are killing this sport.
December 2, 2008 at 12:09 am #33297cpbell0033944Participant…mainly because she is against using steroids, which I believe are killing this sport.
IMO, it isn't steroids that are killing the sport, it's the governing bodies for awarding titles to women who abuse them. I still love athletes who don't use them like Elena, though. 8)
December 2, 2008 at 4:22 pm #33298ReasonParticipantBut how can the judges know who is abusing steroids? All they can do is penalise competitors who are "too" muscular, which I don't think is fair either.
To be honest, I felt really let down when I found out how prevalent steroids were in female bodybuilding. Part of what first fascinated me about the sport was that it proved that it was possible for certain genetically gifted women to become more muscular than the average man, making them almost super-women. Now I find myself wondering if it's even possible without steroids.
December 3, 2008 at 4:40 pm #33299AlexGKeymasterTo be honest, I felt really let down when I found out how prevalent steroids were in female bodybuilding. Part of what first fascinated me about the sport was that it proved that it was possible for certain genetically gifted women to become more muscular than the average man, making them almost super-women. Now I find myself wondering if it's even possible without steroids.
Probably not, the vast majority (I won't say all, there's always statical exceptions) of the women actively involved in competive/contest level physical culture are using enhancement drugs, to one degree or another. And within that group most, but not all, would fit within the category for average height and size for their sex, meaning smaller then their male counterparts. This is the “norm” for mammals, the males are typical larger and stronger then females of the same species. It how nature/evolution (or if you prefer, intelligent design – I’m not going to argue one hypothesis over the other) arrived at this solution for mammalian survival.
Even so, if you measure the Human species on a liner scale with the broad based norm at the center, you’re always going have extremes at either end – at one, naturally far smaller, and at the other, naturally far larger in size. Assuming that we concentrate only on the larger end, and within that subgroup, you’re only going to have a tiny percentage of them that are going to be curious, have an inclination for, be attracted to, physical culture – and willing to stick with it as a lifestyle.
Assuming all things remain equal, meaning that they don’t use enhancement drugs, I would assume that one of these superior Amazonian types would be larger and stronger then a typical male of normal size and development.
Of course the number of them is going to be incredibly small, a percentage of a percentage of a percentage.
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)December 3, 2008 at 5:25 pm #33300ReasonParticipantThat is my line of thinking exactly. I mean, I'm average in height for a man and I often come across women who are significantly taller than me, even though the average woman is most likely always going to be shorter than the average man. It makes sense that the same could be true with muscularity, and perhaps athletes like Elena are proof of that, no matter how rare they are.
December 3, 2008 at 7:54 pm #33301cpbell0033944ParticipantAs far as Alex's response is concerned, I think I broadly agree. I've read experts who state that, taking the average female, and putting her onto a weight-training programme, she will make large initial gains due to neuromuscular programming, i.e she we improve the way her nerve impulses work the muscularity she already has. Subsequently, strength gains plateau as biochemistry come into play in terms of the size of the muscles and their fibre-type composition, as testosterone and synthetic homologues are more effective in promoting conversion of slo-twitch muscles to fast-twitch than vice versa. If our fictitious woman sticks with weight-trainibg, however, she will start increasing her functional strength again as the microscopic damage caused by lifting heavy stimulates fibre repair, which is influenced by a natural increase in circulating testosterone and other factors. This means that, without steroid use, our woman can significantly increase her strengt relative to her male contemporaries, by
1. Neuromuscular improvement
2. Increase in muscle fibre (and therefore overall muscle) size
and
3. Changing the fibre-type composition of her muscles (slow-twich->fast-twitch.
Height helps as there's more space to fit-in bigger, longer muscles, but it's not so important.
Even without steroids, there will be certain women, such as Elena and Jo Dejager, who are genetically-predisposed to having bigger muscles of higher fast-twitch content. The same is true of males; a recent TV programme here in the UK analysed sections of retired 110-metre high hurdles record holder and former World Champion Colin Jackson's calf muscle. The findings were that he had abnormally high levels of ultra-fast-twitch fibres that most people don't posess. Thus it is perfectly possible to find women who will be stronger than most men without using steroids; however, most would only be able to close the gap or match the average guy. Bear in mind, though, that steroid use is higher in guys anyway, and many men find it hard to increase muscle mass significantly without steroid use also. Guys such as our wn AlexG who BB naturally are
1. Comitted and incredibly hard-working
and
2. Are genetically predisposed to building large muscles.
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