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May 4, 2007 at 1:30 am #51349AlexGKeymaster
I'll agree that Lingster was wrong to call it treason, but certainly it was in poor taste to say what she said. My main concern though, is that her education wasn't sufficient to tell her that a raging fire is plenty hot enough to melt steel. 😮
I heard (originally on talk radio, no less) that a bridge overpass near San Francisco (a few days ago) was melted after a gas tanker caught fire and burned.
http://tailrank.com/1827340/Overpass-Near-San-Francisco-Collapses-After-Truck-Fire
Guess that was a conspiracy, too, for Rosie O'Dumbbell.
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)May 4, 2007 at 1:39 am #51350BlackKusanagiParticipantYeah. Was listening to the story while in a chinese resturant across the street from the campus. At least there were no casualties. 🙂
May 4, 2007 at 5:09 am #51351David C. MatthewsParticipantI heard (originally on talk radio, no less) that a bridge overpass near San Francisco (a few days ago) was melted after a gas tanker caught fire and burned.
http://tailrank.com/1827340/Overpass-Near-San-Francisco-Collapses-After-Truck-Fire
Guess that was a conspiracy, too, for Rosie O'Dumbbell.
Believe it or not, there are people out there who believe it was a conspiracy.
Unless the site is a subtle parody of the 9/11 "truthers". (Great Maker please let it be a parody…)
May 4, 2007 at 5:30 am #51352LingsterKeymasterIt's a parody, Dave. I wish I thought of it first.
May 5, 2007 at 12:24 am #51353The Muffin manParticipantMy point is that people can say traitorous things about the United States that ought to result in being shunned, but instead get them job offers.
It wasn't traitorous. This isn't up for debate. It's not opinion. You're wrong. It's simple as that.
May 5, 2007 at 7:16 pm #51354LingsterKeymasterMuffin Man – it is traitorous behavior for an American to falsely allege that the United States Government attacked and killed thousands of its own citizens as a pretense for war, and then broadcast those false allegations on television for all the world to see. At best that's sedition, and I still think it could be construed as treason.
From Wikipedia: "Put simply, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state and has to do with giving aid to enemies or levying war. Sedition is more about encouraging the people to rebel, when treason is actually betraying the country."
What Rosie O'Donnell did is somewhere between those two things.
And I'll thank you to confine your conclusions about what's "up for debate" to your own message board.
May 6, 2007 at 4:35 pm #51355cpbell0033944ParticipantCalm down chaps! ::) ;D
I think we can all (even dreaded left-of-centre milk and-water peaceniks like me) agree that she is, to use a very British expession "well out of order" in saying what she said. I don't for a minute think that 9/11 was an inside job; I do think, however, that both Clinton/Bush (and Major/Blair) administrations were blase about the risks posed by extremists.May 11, 2007 at 9:12 am #51356DavidParticipantLoonies like Rosie get attention and draw eyes away from the real questions about todays government. Like how Carol Lam who had successfully put Randy Cunningham in jail for accepting bribes and had just begun an ongoing investigation into further corruption possibly leading towards more Republican power brokers was fired for failing to prosecute illegal alien smugglers. This is the same Justice Department that refused to step up in the case of two border patrol officers imprisoned for doing their job against a drug smuggler.
June 16, 2007 at 10:26 am #51357The Muffin manParticipantMuffin Man – it is traitorous behavior for an American to falsely allege that the United States Government attacked and killed thousands of its own citizens as a pretense for war, and then broadcast those false allegations on television for all the world to see. At best that's sedition, and I still think it could be construed as treason.
No.
It's looked down upon, but Treason is one of the highest crimes in our country.From Wikipedia: "Put simply, sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state and has to do with giving aid to enemies or levying war. Sedition is more about encouraging the people to rebel, when treason is actually betraying the country."
What Rosie O'Donnell did is somewhere between those two things.
And I'll thank you to confine your conclusions about what's "up for debate" to your own message board.
No, she just had a dumb opinion.
And as much as this administration might want to crush those under heel with scare tactics and "TERRORISTS" talk, it's not illegal to be a crackpot.
June 16, 2007 at 11:42 pm #51358LingsterKeymasterActually, it is illegal to be a crackpot if your crackpottiness leads you to commit treason.
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