[BlackKusanagi]

Finally someone brought up this issue. I think Hollywood mirrors society at large,Hollywood basically gives us what they think the society wants. If society at large sees muscular women as disgusting, then they won’t portray muscular women in a positive light. That is why almost all muscular women in movies are either ugly or evil. As to how to fix it, we will have to address the society. I am not sure how we go about doing that. I do think the society is slowly changing and now slowly accepting muscular women, just not as fast as we like them to.

[BodybyBane]

Wow. We are actually setting a conspiracy! 😛

“Hollywood is a mirror of society.”

Half of it, yes. The other half consists of imposing trends, ideals, actions, and “history”. Hollywood is a prime source of propaganda, no matter how much we like to think otherwise.

Regarding women and muscles…first, we should aim for equality between genders. And I mean, actual equality. In movies, muscles = violence. No one is “casually” buff. If they sport a ripped body, they’re gonna use it, and almost always for violence (okay, pr0n doesn’t count 😉 ) . If it is for visual appeal, well, here Hollywood is a mirror of society: muscular women don’t sell romance. They sell strenght, violence, action.

Continuing with equality: whenever a woman is put in a similar violent situation as any male character…bam, the “X-Men: Apocalypse” issue brought to you by false feminists.They want similar roles, both in fiction and reality, but they don’t want any consequences. They want action, violence, heroism, but they forget that part of being a hero(ine) is receiving punches. Basically, they want perfect, beautiful, capable, untouchable heroines who never get hit and never fail. They want Tomb Raider I and II.

I digress, sorry. So, the only niche we can find for buff ladies is, for now, the violent one. Sadly, muscular ladies are still a small part of sexy body types, so it’s not a matter of acting, it’s a matter of patience. Perhaps one day they’ll realize Scarlett Johansson looks like a supermodel in a bodysuit and not a superspy, or that no matter how much Jennifer Garner or Olivia Munn work out, they don’t look tough. They made every guy bulk up dementially for every single action role, but for every action heroine is just 2 months of lifting plastic weights ans showing how “buff” they look on IG.

by that logic every Star Trek Next Gen stunt involving a woman makes alotta sense now

[Ashlee]

you have to remenber every film that had a female as the hero. Flop
Jody Foster hollywoods big lib female , twice oscar winner . stared in “THE BRAVE ONE” good movie by the way.
Its That Foster has male appeal of cold toast. and the movie bombed.
we need a female Bodybuilder who huged but can act, and is VERY pretty. I hate to say this but a lot of my fellow sisters
are on the hard to look at in the face, this is twice as bad during competion season. and the very pretty ones don’t want to get HUGE!
we need a comedy /love story character had to transform, and hight light the pitfalls of saving the day.
like getting ones hair done and a bank robbery is happening next door. Transform in the chair gets stuck, take a shot gun away from one robber and peals it into and ties it around his head. and so on. forgetting you wearing a expenive dinner dress
and transform ripping it to pieces to stop a terrorist “hans” at you dinner party. and so on.

[unkn0wnx]

you have to remenber every film that had a female as the hero. Flop
Jody Foster hollywoods big lib female , twice oscar winner . stared in “THE BRAVE ONE” good movie by the way.
Its That Foster has male appeal of cold toast. and the movie bombed.
we need a female Bodybuilder who huged but can act, and is VERY pretty. I hate to say this but a lot of my fellow sisters
are on the hard to look at in the face, this is twice as bad during competion season. and the very pretty ones don’t want to get HUGE!
we need a comedy /love story character had to transform, and hight light the pitfalls of saving the day.
like getting ones hair done and a bank robbery is happening next door. Transform in the chair gets stuck, take a shot gun away from one robber and peals it into and ties it around his head. and so on. forgetting you wearing a expenive dinner dress
and transform ripping it to pieces to stop a terrorist “hans” at you dinner party. and so on.

Would you be happy with Gina Carano or Miesha Tate (assuming they can act)?

[Gambitx]

I liked the topic of discussion. I think that the initiative must come from somewhere or we or where least expected.
For now, we wait.
For my part I do what I can with drawings.

[Robert McNay]

“How do we make Hollywood more Pro-Muscle Woman?”

You don’t and can’t, because society in general isn’t.

[Jim]

Agree with Holiday and stevexyz. It would have to be an independent and self funded film. And if so, you’d have to hit a home run, something on the order of Blair Witch Project. A director named Russ Meyer did many films in the 60s and 70s, believe you would call them B films. They were mostly a homage to big busted women, and sort of comedy dramas. One was titled Faster Pussycat Kill Kill that featured an actress that had martial arts skills and went about town beating up guys to get her way. You’d have to find a director with that kind of passion for muscular women to produce a movie featuring FBBs. I know Samuel Oldham did some short movies/films featuring Kay Baxter, Leilani Dalumpines and others that were action shorts. Some of those clips are on YT, and full versions are at Builtmore. I think Cory Everson made the biggest inroads regarding a female bodybuilder that did some acting, yet all her acting was in bit parts, don’t think you could even consider her roles as supporting actress. Believe you’d have to get an actress no larger muscle wise than Debbie Kruck and just as beautiful to be credible. And most important a woman that can act.
Sophia Loren won best actress Oscar for her role in “Two Women” years ago. I’ve seen her in many movies, but hardly pay attention to her acting as I am mesmerized by her beauty, figure and cleavage. Would it be the same if a female bodybuilder was as an accomplished actress as Sophia? Would I just notice the beauty and muscles and not the acting? Or maybe in the end it doesn’t much matter. Traveled recently and had a layover in a large airport. Took out my cell phone and looked at a few female bodybuilder clips while waiting to leave. As I sat with the phone cupped in my palms, I wondered how many guys in any airport worldwide were engaging in the same activity? Very few, I suspect. I don’t think female bodybuilding will ever get any acceptance by Hollywood beyond a curiosity stage.

[AlexG]

Agree with Holiday and stevexyz. It would have to be an independent and self funded film. And if so, you’d have to hit a home run, something on the order of Blair Witch Project.

Not to rain on the parade, but I serious doubt there’s be a response on the magnitude of the Blair Witch Project. The lost video concept was a novelty at the time, but now has become a worn-out sci-fi cliché. A FBBr / femuscular character(s) story would be aimed at a niche, but not insignificant, audience that would make it a profitable venture. A better analogy would be on the lines of “Interstate 60: Tales of the Road” (2002), or “Atlas Shrugged – Part 1” (2011), both of which were made outside of the hegemony of Hollywood, had good production quality and w/ a number of familiar faces in various roles.

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[Holiday]

[quote=”Jim” post=125946]Agree with Holiday and stevexyz. It would have to be an independent and self funded film. And if so, you’d have to hit a home run, something on the order of Blair Witch Project.

Not to rain on the parade, but I serious doubt there’s be a response on the magnitude of the Blair Witch Project. The lost video concept was a novelty at the time, but now has become a worn-out sci-fi cliché. A FBBr / femuscular character(s) story would be aimed at a niche, but not insignificant, audience that would make it a profitable venture. A better analogy would be on the lines of “Interstate 60: Tales of the Road” (2002), or “Atlas Shrugged – Part 1” (2011), both of which were made outside of the hegemony of Hollywood, had good production quality and w/ a number of familiar faces in various roles.[/quote]

I never understood the appeal of the Blair Witch Project. When I first watched the film it was a mess with no scares. I was more frustrated at how moronic those people were at getting lost.

Another approach to presenting women bodybuilders is to not always make them 2D caricatures. Muscular people have usually been depicted as simple-minded, just as other types of people are put into cliches. Having stories that capitalize on their physique is just one approach when they could express other facets like anybody else.

[Gambitx]

I think one way to introduce a muscular woman in a hollywood movie or not make it a prominent supporting character. Many characters have achieved much further to the point of having their own stories.

You don’t and can’t, because society in general isn’t.

And in my opinion, I think those comments a bit defeatist and conformist. Especially in a forum where admire muscular women.
As difficult as it is, we have to encourage, even if it’s something small. If we do not promote the highlight for protagonists muscular women who will do it?

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