[Chuck]

What are some FMG cliches you think you should avoid like the plague when writing a story?

(I refer not to stereotypical literary plots but cliches specific to the FMG genre lol)

[CDR]

Some phrases I've readed way too many times:
*She had tree-trunk legs.
*Her muscles were harder than steel
*Her gazillion inches biceps lifted the googazilion tons weight easily
Thats just the tip of the iceberg 😛

CDR

[iceman75]

Some phrases I've readed way too many times:
*She had tree-trunk legs.
*Her muscles were harder than steel
*Her gazillion inches biceps lifted the googazilion tons weight easily
Thats just the tip of the iceberg 😛

CDR

While I agree with you with the first two, I try to avoid metaphors and similies as much as possible when describing muscle, I gotta say, I do do that last one very often, because thats what I believe people want to see out of my stories. Another cliche is the spinach eating = instant muscles and strength, I am not much of a fan of that, I don't remember ever using it in one of my stories, I usually use growth formula or magic in my growth stories.

[JimmyDimples]

Hmm… two I can think of off the bat are:

"diamond shaped calves"

"baseball/softball sized biceps"

Although I admit I sorta played off that last one in The Stray.

[joey7x]

I love these kinds of topics  ;D*

Orgasms above all else – Exposure to mysterious  substances/radiation/magic/etc. always has a side effect of tingling in the nether regions.  And it must be taken care of, then and there.

Remember that episode of Star Trek whre they landed on a planet ruled by  women and they were Nazis? – If there is ever a event that reults in a muscular evolution in women, they will proceed to subjugate men in the most humiliating of ways.

F*** Family – A muscular Woman will always be an ***hole to her family members.

F*** Family – Unless she gets that itch.

Like my revealing outfit…typical male –  A muscle woman will wear the shortiest of skirts to accentuate her rock hard curves and then  silently mull over the shallowness of men as they gawk.

Screw the law, I'm stacked – Go ahead, beat the guy to near death. Everyone knows that you can't be brought up on assault charges if your looks are insulted/you like to beat people up/You were horny and he was'nt cooperating.

Hot and bothered – Any and Everything will turn a muscle woman on. Working out?  Manhandling someone? Doing your taxes? All result in a sticky puddle.

* –Please keep in mind I was "weened"  on DtV

[Cowprobe]

Gotta love it!

Having attempted writing Science Friction here's one I've both bawled over and been guilty of.

The biggest cliche in FMG fiction is that after the big reveal the story just putters out. What looks to be an interesting concept can't sustain the writer's interest to a proper finale. So the saga ends somewhere a little after the shredded clothing hits the floor. Might not even be the climax of the plot merely the result of a lady becoming implausibly more so.  ;D

joey7x that's some funny stuff man. I'd love to see the FMG story equivalent of the Evil Overlord's Guide.

"I'll be sure to treat my significant other the way I'd want to be. Love makes a potent bargaining chip when power relations flip flop due to a faulty microwave and some frozen spinach"

"When confronted by someone rapidly eclipsing me in a physical task I'll take a break, rehydrate, and declare them the winner"

"When I graduate from Harvard I WON'T make that information public to anyone other than potential employers. Especially if I happen to be an arrogant former member of the Crimson with a sadistic streak"

"If my amazing concoction for superior health and power gets consumed by a rival I'll quietly cooperate in their schemes for world domination. While my secondary database distributes the notes worldwide; If I can't be powerful everyone else will!"

"When my significant other begins behaving erratically while undergoing some inexplicable metamorphosis I'll quietly hit the speed-dial for the fire department and the hospital, in that order"

::)

[TC2]

Let's see…

Men being dominated by strong women.

Women using their powers for evil.

Eating Spinach

Falling into a vat of toxic waste

Radiation

Magic potions

Having to masturbate after changing

Having an orgasm everytime

Story ending directly after a transformation with no conclusion

Rampaging for no reason

Abuse of power

That's all I can think of at the moment, I'm sure I'm guilty of a few.  And I also cannot blame an author for using metophors for the muscles because it's really difficult to describe something like that without the use of metaphors.

[gblock01]

Orgasms above all else – Exposure to mysterious  substances/radiation/magic/etc. always has a side effect of tingling in the nether regions.  And it must be taken care of, then and there.

Remember that episode of Star Trek whre they landed on a planet ruled by  women and they were Nazis? – If there is ever a event that reults in a muscular evolution in women, they will proceed to subjugate men in the most humiliating of ways.

F*** Family – A muscular Woman will always be an ***hole to her family members.

F*** Family – Unless she gets that itch.

Like my revealing outfit…typical male –  A muscle woman will wear the shortiest of skirts to accentuate her rock hard curves and then  silently mull over the shallowness of men as they gawk.

Screw the law, I'm stacked – Go ahead, beat the guy to near death. Everyone knows that you can't be brought up on assault charges if your looks are insulted/you like to beat people up/You were horny and he was'nt cooperating.

Hot and bothered – Any and Everything will turn a muscle woman on. Working out?  Manhandling someone? Doing your taxes? All result in a sticky puddle.

Crap. Now I'm feeling all self conscious. 😛

<Thinks for a minute>

Ah, screw it. It's called fantasy for a reason.

So let's see what cliche's have we not covered yet…

We've got: mind-blowing orgasms, women in endless heat, chicks with a superiority complex and muscle on the mind, women leading new world order, muscle nearly bursting out of more than appealing clothing, muscle actually bursting out of said more than appealing clothing, some combination of everything listed so far… I think that that about covers it.

Ah, but wait! These are cliches of the results! what about the part that comes before it? Well, there's: slow growth, average growth, fast grow, instant growth, realistic growth, non-realistic growth, breast growth, height growth, muscle growth, hair growth (on the head), again, some combination there of… I think that's about all of it.

Oh, and then we have to get to the cause! Here we have: aliens (in general), alien technology, alien invasion, human technology, potions, formulas, alchemy, magic, magical items, magical animals, dreams, magical dreams, psychic powers, hypnosis, lightning, cosmic energy, radiation, faulty machinery, genetics, chemicals, diseases, viruses, bacteria, general mishaps, and, once again, some combination of the aforementioned things.

Oh! And let's not forget the degree of muscle involved. Lots, little, slim and toned, massive, veiny, hard, ripped, curvy, little fat, lots of fat, thick bones, slim (but sturdy) bones, moderates of any of these traits, etc.

And then there's the time period! First there… is… … Ah screw it. I think you get the idea. 😉

[Chuck]

Crap. Now I'm feeling all self conscious. 😛

<Thinks for a minute>

Ah, screw it. It's called fantasy for a reason.

So let's see what cliche's have we not covered yet…

We've got: mind-blowing orgasms, women in endless heat, chicks with a superiority complex and muscle on the mind, women leading new world order, muscle nearly bursting out of more than appealing clothing, muscle actually bursting out of said more than appealing clothing, some combination of everything listed so far… I think that that about covers it.

Ah, but wait! These are cliches of the results! what about the part that comes before it? Well, there's: slow growth, average growth, fast grow, instant growth, realistic growth, non-realistic growth, breast growth, height growth, muscle growth, hair growth (on the head), again, some combination there of… I think that's about all of it.

Oh, and then we have to get to the cause! Here we have: aliens (in general), alien technology, alien invasion, human technology, potions, formulas, alchemy, magic, magical items, magical animals, dreams, magical dreams, psychic powers, hypnosis, lightning, cosmic energy, radiation, faulty machinery, genetics, chemicals, diseases, viruses, bacteria, general mishaps, and, once again, some combination of the aforementioned things.

Oh! And let's not forget the degree of muscle involved. Lots, little, slim and toned, massive, veiny, hard, ripped, curvy, little fat, lots of fat, thick bones, slim (but sturdy) bones, moderates of any of these traits, etc.

And then there's the time period! First there… is… … Ah screw it. I think you get the idea. 😉

Aw man! Even the good stuff is cliched? The whole genre is cliched?

Man, there has to be some room for originality somewhere… he he he.

Anything else anyone can think of? Some really nice responses so far.

[JimmyDimples]

joey7x that's some funny stuff man. I'd love to see the FMG story equivalent of the Evil Overlord's Guide.

"I'll be sure to treat my significant other the way I'd want to be. Love makes a potent bargaining chip when power relations flip flop due to a faulty microwave and some frozen spinach"

"When confronted by someone rapidly eclipsing me in a physical task I'll take a break, rehydrate, and declare them the winner"

"When I graduate from Harvard I WON'T make that information public to anyone other than potential employers. Especially if I happen to be an arrogant former member of the Crimson with a sadistic streak"

"If my amazing concoction for superior health and power gets consumed by a rival I'll quietly cooperate in their schemes for world domination. While my secondary database distributes the notes worldwide; If I can't be powerful everyone else will!"

"When my significant other begins behaving erratically while undergoing some inexplicable metamorphosis I'll quietly hit the speed-dial for the fire department and the hospital, in that order"

::)

I know what you're talking about, CP.  Thought of a few more on my own…

Also, another I just thought up…

"I will not keep pointlessly lording my strength over my significant other.  Because (1) If I haven't already figured out that I'm the stronger one by now, I'm really too dumb to be allowed to breed;(2) if I keep bullying him, he'll either toughen up against it or become desperate enough to get a gun, call the police, or at least flee the house; or (3) if he truly becomes a broken man… he'll be a lot less fun and interesting to be around in a hurry."

"I will not molest those under age.  It is not sensuous, racy, or awakening him from his innocence, or embracing the modern times.  IT IS STATUTORY RAPE AND A FELONY." 

"If the formula/charm works without any unpleasant or dangerous after effects on both men AND women, and my significant other is a decent enough fellow, I'll give him a shot of the good stuff.  Not TOO much, mind you; I'm charitable, not stupid."

"On the same coin, to nurturingly give and share strength is much more fulfilling than just to be a thug.  If I can, I'll dole out some to those I know will be loyal to me, and be their 'den mother' and protector."

"I'll occasionally follow up my feat of strength of the day with a trip to the mall to shop for shoes or plushies, getting a chocolate smoothie, meeting my girlfriends at the hair salon or the manicurists', or maybe just a simple giggle." 

I do believe, though, that a good chunk of that is already covered in the Evil Empress section of Stupid Plot Tricks.  F'rinstance:

8. I will not be put off by the Hero's rebuffs of my sexual advances. If he doesn't succumb, I won't fly into a jealous rage. Instead, I'll shrug my shoulders, send him on his way, and have him picked off as he exits the fortress.

…

21. My Amazon Hordes will either be dyed-in-the-wool lesbians or have a nice pool of suitable comely men of their liking at home.

22. My Amazon Hordes will wear full body armor, rather than three small triangles of chain mail, which are reserved for dress occasions.

23. The infantry of my Amazon Hordes will use advanced tactics such as the phalanx and employ sophisticated weapons such as the 10' pike when closing with the enemy, but only after their archers have emptied their quivers from 200 yards away.

24. I will reevaluate any job that requires manipulating a man in my thrall. Chances are one of my Amazons could do the job with less risk.

And one that I'd probably give cash money to see in play in these parts of the Internets:

40. The appearance of weakness can be as useful as the appearance of strength. I will exploit the double standard for all it's worth.

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