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February 21, 2007 at 5:30 pm #47565SammiChungParticipant
All above Evil Overlord/Empress quotes are fantastic I love that site it gives me nothing but giggles everytime I read it. As for cliches well writing in general in any genre has so many to list it really isn't that hard to note that writing in general is cliched. Remember when a Bard wandered from town to town to tell stories..sure it was cliched too but then again he very rarely told the same stories over and over as he traveled along. either that or he elaborated or expanded some parts and shortedned others for variation. Being a writer myself I find trying to be completely and utterly original is initself cliched too belive it or not you want to get somewhere on the level of your readers and try to get somewhere just above that in order to keep interest. 😉 ;D Love Sammi
February 22, 2007 at 2:12 am #47566namParticipantI guess, as with films, you end up getting repeated 'iconography' and generic conventions. I don't mind the use of clichés in stories, though occasionally it's good to find something new and refreshing.
February 22, 2007 at 4:00 am #47567crazyfckParticipantI think that ‘its been done’ syndrome is the worst thing that a writer could have in his mind.
writers should be encouraged to write longer stories, because it leads to character development, like marknew, helplesscase, hunter s creek, puppetman, nomdreserv – –where are they?– that's the way to go beyond clichés
FMG is all about character transformation, when you create a tale with two pages, you are just scratching the surface, unless you are a very, very talented writer, it will just starts and ends with a description of growth, and it doesnt have any appeal to me. I want to know about her, what she was before and then after the transformation, how people will react to her, her new feelings. I love third person perspective of FMG
Remember, there is only 36 dramatic situations in all literature, comics, movies, so it's easy to say that some story is cliché. Thats why character development is the most precious thing that a story can have, it's where a story can be new, to have unexpected turns, to be fun
If the writer wants to be shakespeare, even better, but if he wants to use worn-out cliches and over used plot devices and even there we can see who she is, I'm happy
the writer that is aware of cliches, is the one who writes the best
I was thinking of a 'new flavor' to be a good macguffin to FMG, instead of spinach, radiation or magic; a some kind of new sweet taste and smell, that could be put in ice creams, chewing gums, drinks. The girls just need to feel its 'flavor' over time to have the alergic reaction that goes to some muscle hypertrophy. Of course, a taste pleasant only to girls. I'll work on that, sounds a good idea for more fmg clichés, is never enough
February 22, 2007 at 3:10 pm #47568Ad_MeyerParticipantOne thing I try to do make sure with my stories is to remember that my heroines are human, and she has every right to enjoy her life
as the girl next door. Of course, if that results in her taking advantage of her physique or strength in a legal manner, so be it.February 23, 2007 at 1:38 am #47569Number6ParticipantI think all the main cliches have already been discussed by now; I'm pretty sure there was a list somewhere on the BEArchive of a similar nature, involving standard plot devices seen in BE tales. I don't remember all of them, but here are a couple off the top of my head (and made relevant for FMG):
*The muscles of any female appearing in a FMG story will never get any smaller than their original size.
*Any time a technology/chemical compound/magic spell is introduced for some purpose other than muscle growth, it will malfunction and cause muscle growth (but only in women).
*Any time a technology/chemical compound/magic spell is introduced for the purpose of muscle growth, it will malfunction and cause *more* muscle growth than intended (but only for women).
*Any woman who is introduced as being opposed to the very idea of big muscles/muscle growth will inevitably come into contact with any technology/chemical compound/magic spell that causes muscle growth (whether intentionally or otherwise), and will be so changed by the experience that by the end of the story she either ends up a huge size and content, or will have an unsatiable desire to become even bigger.February 23, 2007 at 3:47 am #47570Prophet TenebraeParticipantAre you thinking of Eliot Cayne's 101 Rules of BE? It wouldn't be so hard to adapt it for FMG.
Clichés become somewhat self-perpetuating… the little sister who out-muscles her brother, girls becoming bisexual… it's what makes them enjoyable.
February 23, 2007 at 5:50 am #47571FettParticipantAre you thinking of Eliot Cayne's 101 Rules of BE? It wouldn't be so hard to adapt it for FMG.
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February 23, 2007 at 6:19 am #47572Hunter S CreekParticipantWhat's this?
Not to steal Prophet Tenebrae's thunder but I think that he was referring to — Eliot Cayne's "100 BE Laws of Physics" — http://www.overflowingbra.com/download.php?StoryID=72
Tschuss!
HunterFebruary 23, 2007 at 6:32 am #47573TC2ParticipantHmm… that reminds me. I need to re-post the FMG bible, I wrote one before but it got erased when it was on Wreck's. I'll write a new edition once I have some free time and some color projects are finished.
February 23, 2007 at 5:42 pm #47574FettParticipantNot to steal Prophet Tenebrae's thunder but I think that he was referring to — Eliot Cayne's "100 BE Laws of Physics" — http://www.overflowingbra.com/download.php?StoryID=72
Tschuss!
HunterCheers, I'll take a looksee. ^___^
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