[Grandmaster]

Hard to say, but I think the age bracket of the given individual(s) has large element to do with it, especially with males (young and horny – Foreplay? Let's get on with it already! vs. a more mature understand about the relationships between men and women).  Today, thanks to the internet, the first sighting / contact of muscular women comes at a much earlier age then it did in the past – but also at a price of being much more removed and thus shallow, too, in character.  Instead of seeing them as living individuals with wills and personalities of their own, as would be the case with a real world encounter, they’re perceived as sexual objects.  Given this scenario, I think in general, most would gravitate toward sticking with "fetish as entertainment" over that of a broader interest.  Again, another factor you'd have to take into consideration is the growing decline in book reading by the general population – if you ain't exposed to it at an early age, you'll almost never acquire a taste for it.  This, is in part, why, with some very rare exceptions, you don't see the posting of novella (even rarer still, novel) length stories on the forums these days.

In the past, I would have said that there was a relative degree of balance between the two principle groups of people, i.e. those with a broader interest in the subject vs the sexual fetishist types.  Now, you don't see this, the scales have decidedly tipped in favor of the fetish over the broader interest.  This is, again, I think is a reflection of the current generation involved on-line, which is decidedly younger (in general as a group) then it was, say ten years ago.

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I have to agree. Further, I'm beginning to think that for fictional women with muscle to be taken seriously, the flesh-and-blood athletes will have to demand it (again), maybe in conjunction with similarly-minded conscientious writers, artists, and promoters. A double (triple?)-pronged social attack, if you will. A few more Picturing the Modern Amazons to "compete" with Awefilms (which more than adequately serves the requirements of its niche), if only to achieve some much-needed balance.

Well I keep telling(Yelling) the artists here to submit to Overstreets White lighting productions, Just come up with a story !any story! sword and sandel,Medevil,slice of life and send it in!!There already Crappy artist getting there used nose tissues published from the WLP and Radio comixs!!

I'm not seeing how submitting work to a company publishing such substandard fare (as you describe it) is a good place to get something meaningful going…why associate oneself with dreck? There's too many print-on-demand services (whereby a cartoonist can do his/her own thing) for that.

[David]

One of the things I should mention that I failed to before, or two things as I remember something else.
First you need a writer to just have the big built woman there as a member of the cast and to not make her the butt of jokes and if she is have her give as good or better than she takes.
Second we need the real fans to come out of the freakin closet. Stop hiding dammit your not weird. Your not a fruit cake. Working for Awefilms I've seen how many fans join the site that are from the New York City area. If half of those people showed up for the New York Muscle Club we would have had the money to pay for big named women to come to town for the shows at bigger and better venues. The MS. Olympia would still be in NYC and selling out every time. If you can go "wow" at some blond or breasty babe in public with your friends you can go "wow" when you see a bicep on a gal. It might just get your friend to open their mind and see things the way you do. At the very least they'll tolerate you.

[Chuck]

Yes, Masschine, thank you very much for what you've said. There's nothing wrong with liking really well built women at all. I think that a problem some guys have is that the ones who are really into it might tend to be the quieter types that think being in the closet about it is kind of comfy. Granted, I catch my fair flak from my friends for liking She-Hulk but I shrug it off, as good natured as they are about it.

I also agree with your comments that our muscular protagonist must also not be the butt of all jokes and give as good as she gets. I think it would be hard but doable.

[Ashlee]

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I'm not seeing how submitting work to a company publishing such substandard fare (as you describe it) is a good place to get something meaningful going…why associate oneself with dreck? There's too many print-on-demand services (whereby a cartoonist can do his/her own thing) for that.
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well its a start , Its a start to increase the  art from substandard to the execution of excellance.
You got to start somewhere.and print on demand is what brought the japanese manga to the
fine medium it is.

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