[TC2]

I don't think the question is whether the XXX material has recently appeared.  I think it's more of a question as to why it's included in so many stories.

For all the years I've been around I've seen some stories which have had no XXX related material and only involved with just the growth aspect while demonstrating some feats of strength.  Some stories dive right into the XXX and start describing every little facet of the process, while some stories ignore it and go into strength feats, showing off, or heaven forbid actually have some kind of plot!?

For those of us who don't want to read about descriptive sex scenes, where are those stories?  So far the only one I read on here that didn't have any sex was the one with Wonderwoman and Superman.  All it was, was Wonderwoman showing off her incredible muscles to Superman, but they never went into the XXX territory.

That was an interesting and well written story, so where are the other stories that are like that?

I've found I've had to create my own, but that makes me niche specific because I only tend to write about heroes and villains, and coping with drastic changes in life.  I find stories like that interesting, so where are the rest of those stories that don't involve sexual content?

I think that's the main issue, and I probably don't read much of the stories on here because they all devolve into the same old sex scenes that I've seen written tons of times before.

There should be more stories that focus less on the sex and on the other aspects.  There's too many sex monster stories, where's the diversity?

[Michael Pouliot]

I don't think the question is whether the XXX material has recently appeared.

That was her specific question.

There should be more stories that focus less on the sex and on the other aspects.  There's too many sex monster stories, where's the diversity?

Again, my point is that it should be completely unsurprising that fetish subject matter is dominated by sexualized material which skews towards XXX.  Particularly when the fetish is combined with the Internet, where identities are relatively anonymous, and thus the willingness to generate explicit material is increased.  And then combine it with the fact that contributors are unpaid.  Is it really that surprising that the body of unpaid, anonymous contributions to a fetish genre skew towards material which sexually arouses the contributor?

Even your own material is soft core sexualized.  The outgrowth of clothes and the exposure of nakedness is soft core eroticism.  Yes, it's not XXX, but it's still R.

You and Deadly Pixxxie are pining for a situation that simply isn't realistic.

[stmercy2020]

Sorry, not-the-herbert, but I have to disagree with you, at least in part.  While I agree that it is unrealistic to expect there to be NO graphic porn paticularly in the FMG/GTS genre, I don't think it's really unrealistic to ask for stories to be a little more finely crafted.  Diversity is really the key- yes, some of the stories you read are all about the heaving and the sweating, not all of them have to be- and if you take a look at some of the material that's been around for quite a while, not all of it is.

Take a look at JimmyDimples's work.  Look at some of the older Lingster stuff.  Heck, look at Scoundrel's work.  The variety of sexualized situations certainly exists, but it isn't always expressed in visceral, feel the throbbing members, taste the salt detail.  Sex can be as graphic or as subtle as the author feels is appropriate for the story.

I, personally, am kind of a prude (or at least, that's what all my friends tell me), so I don't tend to write in all the nitty-gritty.  That said, some stories have more than others (I know of a number of people who read the Sylph stories as 'fap' stories- very strange), particularly in my short stories, because I'm less concerned with a plot driven narrative in them than I am in a story with 20,000+ words.

The main problem, if it IS a problem, is that there seems to be a real decline in well-written stories of a less (note I don't day non-) sexualized nature.  There's simply not a whole lot out there you could safely read at, say, work or around your kids, or even at home with your partner unless your partner is extremely open, and that's kind of a shame.  Once again- just my opinion on the matter.  I'm nothing if not equivocal.

[Michael Pouliot]

I don't think it's really unrealistic to ask for stories to be a little more finely crafted.

Ask all you want.  My point is that it's unrealistic to expect a better diversity of output than has been historically produced.

The main problem, if it IS a problem, is that there seems to be a real decline in well-written stories of a less (note I don't day non-) sexualized nature.

I don't share that viewpoint.  I don't think the ratio of XXX to Soft Core to Non-Sexual FMG/GTS output is any different now than 3, 5, or 10 years ago.

[stmercy2020]

I would add, however, that it is probably unrealistic to expect it if the response from the average commenter is to, essentially, say that your desires are irrelevant and that you should go crawl under a rock or live in a cave.  Or, to put it differently, you're absolutely right- it IS unrealistic to expect a better diversity UNLESS people demand it- and reward it when it happens.

[Michael Pouliot]

it IS unrealistic to expect a better diversity UNLESS people demand it- and reward it when it happens.

Reward it how?  More "Great job!" posts?  Bah.  People don't produce fetish content for anyone's pleasure but their own. 

[stmercy2020]

Allow me to take a moment to be irritated at your crass and insensitive attitude.  Clearly I'm not writing for YOUR pleasure, and just as obviously I intend to enjoy my writing, but what makes you think that you have the SLIGHTEST knowledge of my full intentions.  That's arrogance to the nth degree.

[TC2]

That's not necessarily true.

Some writers desire to hear the praise from the fans and the people reading, to hear them discuss their story or to just simply read all the wonderful comments.  It's not always writing for their own pleasure, in fact.  For me I've been working on my damn FMG animation for a good 6 years now and if it were up to me I would NOT have continued working on the animation.

I would have simply said "Screw it, project over."  But I didn't, the -only- reason I'm continuing working on the animation is because the fans have been waiting patiently for it and I told them I would do it, so I am.  I've wanted to give up and not continue drawing the animation many times, but I felt obligated to the fans to finish what I started.  So it's definitely not about my own pleasure, because if it were up to me I'd stop working on the animation period.

So it definitely is for the fans, now that's obviously not a majority of the people, but it also doesn't mean that everyone does it for self satisfaction.

[Michael Pouliot]

Allow me to take a moment to be irritated at your crass and insensitive attitude.

Take all the time you want.

That's arrogance to the nth degree.

And when I talk about you specifically, maybe you'll let me know.  I was making a generalization.  But if you prefer, I'll rephrase it as: The primary motivation of your typical unpaid creator of fetish material is their own pleasure.  Although they may consider the feedback of their audience, typically audience feedback is on a minor motivating force.

So are you going share with the rest of us your "full intentions" to counter what I said above?

I've wanted to give up and not continue drawing the animation many times, but I felt obligated to the fans to finish what I started.

I would consider that rather unusual.  Not in a bad way, but simply in a way that is a few deviations (pardon the pun) from the norm.

[stmercy2020]

My full intentions?  No- I don't think we know each other that well, thank you very much.  I will point out, however, that I have never received any compensation for any of the stories I've posted- and I have written them according to the specifications of a number of different people, not all of which really did anything for me.  I've written to experiment with different styles, to attempt to make something pleasing for someone that asked for it, and to see if I could trigger a response with something a little different.  What about you?  What have you written and why?

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