[SteveG]

I have all but completely lost interest in DC, and no longer really consider myself a fan.

This movie was your breaking point? There must have been other DC stories that pissed you off. No?

I quit reading DC comics, mostly, because of utter disgust at Brian Azzarello’s Wonder Woman. It’s like watching somebody pull the wings off a butterfly. Very, very slowly. The tone and mood of the current DC universe is more like Civil War era Marvel, and I quit reading Marvel at that time as well, and have only just started reading them again.

[fbbfan]

Fair argument. Funny enough I actually read Marvel Civil War last night. Sure the art in comics has gotten better, but the writing was kind of weak. Did not like it too much, characters seemed very one dimensional and unreasonable. I miss the older stuff, the older style. Looks like they have hired graphic designers that do not understand or probably never read comics back in the day.

[SteeleBlazer84]

Again I had my quibbles with Justice League War, and I know we all have different tastes and as Aesop would tell us, you can’t please everybody all the time, and if you do you lose your ass.
However, I think some of the criticism is a bit misguided. First the people complaining that the parademons all look the same. Would you say that its lame that all the storm troopers in star wars look the same.
Again there is a reason for the sameness.
Its not like the old filmation superman cartoons where they reuse the same asteroid and punching animation for superman to hit over and over and over again. The animation for dispatching the parademons was all unique. And really the corners they did cut in the animation were not as blatant as in the past.
My biggest gripe was when the parademons got sent back through the boom tubes. They used a 3d model and I don’t think they added any animation to it. They just sent it spinning. And also the colors didn’t match up as nicely as they should.
But, otherwise they had nicely detailed backgrounds throughout and solid animation throughout as well.
I will say some of the lip sync stunk, but that is a plauge of all modern day animation. Sometimes darksieds voice and green lanterns were not close. But, again that’s a problem that is plaguing all modern animation.
And about the characters. First wonder woman although I don’t like her outfit, her build is a nice muscular build, like a figure model. And yes, she should be more regal and not like child. But, I’ll take her child like persona over the uptight feminist man-hater that Frank Miller wrote her like.
Calling all men sperm donors and worse. The old comics had their share of problems and so do the new 52…
However, I thought the first 18 issues of Justice League were pretty damn good. Good stories and great art. The whole Court and Night of the Owls with Batman was one of the best batman stories. Despite the lame action sequences.
And Jonah Hex, didn’t change much… Not until they sent him to gotham in the present… So again ups and downs its a mostly enjoyable ride. But, nothing is perfect.
So allow me to get off my Donkey, and let me carry it into town to please the next person.

[khuddle]

Lets face it guys, the last good DC Animated films were WW, GL:First Flight and JL: Crisis on Two Earths.
Go back and watch GL:First Flight and you will be astounded by the quality of the animation — looks like Disney did it. What is happening with DC? Not sure but they need to get their act together.

[SteeleBlazer84]

Khuddle, I love both the films you just named and both are near the top of my favorites. Crisis on Two Earths is like in my top 3 as it has lots of awesome action scenes and a great plot and the voice actress for Super Woman was amazing!!!
But, you do know the character designer for both those films was the character designer for War. He doesn’t do all the DC animated stuff, but he does a lot of them and he is the best they have.
But, no I suggest you look at Wonder Womans interactions and how she swings the sword around. Really wonderful animation going on in there. Complex animation that you can’t fake easily.
Those were each unique frames. They didn’t do any tweening or anything to cheat there.
Again I don’t know what you guys want in animation.
But, its quality. Sure maybe not as fluid as say Fire & Ice by the great Ralph Bakishi. But, damn good animation.

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