[David]

The swastikas are technically outlawed in Germany. They should not pose a problem, there are plenty of non-German history sites that have posted them in pictures.
There is a certain amount of oversensitivity. A friend of a friend is catching hell in a marina because he posted a metal sign "U-boat parking only" in his slip. Seems the complainer doesn't understand that u-boat is the anglicized abbreviation of Unterseeboot a term that been in use from WW1 to today.

[Seldom]

The swastika is a Hindu symbol meaning "luck" or "charm", or one of the many, many incarnations of a good or lucky god.  It is only in the Western world that it has become a symbol of evil.

For a while it's a bit disconcerting wandering around temple grounds in India and seeing the swastika everywhere.  It's a decorative pattern used in fencing, sculptures, etc, like the cross in a church.

I imagine Hindus are pretty pissed off that a benign, lucky symbol to them has been co-opted and turned into a symbol of hate and violence to the Western world.

I post this because I think it's important not to associate everything the Nazis did with the taint of Naziism.  If we are going to use the swastika as the ultimate symbol of hate, we should at least recognize its origins and history first.

Ignoring what happened, and that there are people who still believe that way, does not make it go away.  I think you can go ahead and post the pictures.  There will always be a fascination with evil and the baser instincts of the human soul, ignoring that is stupid and a fantastic way to make sure these things happen again, and again, and again.

[Ashlee]

Let me say ,that part of my heraitage , did some some pretty aweful things. The Rape of Naking for one.
But  when i see comic stories with the Rising sun flag I do not get squimish, its trying to acturate.
wearing the emblem means she's party menber.
and If the Nazi's did create Super humans Believe me,the emblem would plastered all over them.
Ben Dunn once said about a german model plane where Tail emblem was Omitted , its a crime against historic fact.
Hope i did not put my foot in my mouth or offened anybody.

[Dan]

Say what you will about the Nazis, but they did have fasion sense. "Check him out before he kills us."

[AlexG]

Also some North American Indian tribes used it, too. 

It was originally a sun symbol, the spinning rays of the sun, to be precise.

Later, it was co-opted by the Christians (along with the regular cross, which is also a sun symbol – i.e. Constantine), in fact one Catholic order of nuns still uses it to this day (which is believed by some scholors, tho you won't hear mentioned on any of the History Channel docs, is where Hitler first encountered it as a child in Austria.  Normally, it's subscribed that he got it from occult symbolism, which it also has links to, too.) In fact, if you visit a certain hospital in Peoria, IL – **I think** its St. Francis has them imbedded into the marble floors.

As for the version used, it depends upon the direction of its spin – the Nazi version is clockwise, whereas the Hindu and North Am Indians had it in a counterclockwise direction.

The swastika is a Hindu symbol meaning "luck" or "charm", or one of the many, many incarnations of a good or lucky god.  It is only in the Western world that it has become a symbol of evil.

For a while it's a bit disconcerting wandering around temple grounds in India and seeing the swastika everywhere.  It's a decorative pattern used in fencing, sculptures, etc, like the cross in a church.

I imagine Hindus are pretty pissed off that a benign, lucky symbol to them has been co-opted and turned into a symbol of hate and violence to the Western world.

I post this because I think it's important not to associate everything the Nazis did with the taint of Naziism.  If we are going to use the swastika as the ultimate symbol of hate, we should at least recognize its origins and history first.

Ignoring what happened, and that there are people who still believe that way, does not make it go away.  I think you can go ahead and post the pictures.  There will always be a fascination with evil and the baser instincts of the human soul, ignoring that is stupid and a fantastic way to make sure these things happen again, and again, and again.

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[ze fly]

Is this forum perceived as being that hyper-sensitive?

🙂 nope!  😉 That's just me who isn't really at ease with that. Call that some sort of guilt for what happened to jews while France was occupied by Germans and some collaborated with the nazis. Most of the West-Germans have that feeling of guilt too.. :-
And I live less than hundred kilometers from the concentration camp of Struthof http://www.struthof.fr/index.php?id=300&L=1 which I visited: this kinda shakes you, trust me…  :'(

But let's get back to the topic at hand: pics will be posted this night (or morning for most of you  ;D )

[ze fly]

Done: 😉
http://amaz0ns.com/option,com_smf/Itemid,135/topic,7701.0/

[Grandmaster]

Not so long ago, gamers had the opportunity to see a trailer for the next Resident Evil. It showed a (white) guy blasting (black) african zombies.

Of course, clamors of indignation followed. It didn't matter to these people that these were zombies, that most africans are black skinned and that the character involved was of caucasian decent. They didn't bother trying to understand the context. No. What mattered to them was that some white dude was killing black folk… the rest, the story, the context didn't matter. To these people this was racism pure and simple!

Was this reaction class A-1 stupid? Hell yes. >:(

So I say post away, because there will always be people who get easily offended. Hopefully, people around these boards are more intelligent than that.

I don't believe being appalled by the visual of black (or any other color of) people being killed makes one unintelligent.

Unless it's the M-rated Lion King Safari, if black people are going to be killed in a first person shooter set on the African continent, it's racial  by definition. The fantasy elements of the game don't preclude that.

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