[The Muffin man]

Muffin Man, you know the minimum level of behavior that is expected of you.  This doesn't meet it. 

Do better or go away.

See, after Strawberry set the bar so low, I see it was obviously a mistake to keep up the androgynous thing.

Funny. I did this specifically to keep myself from being treated different. Turns out if I told you my real gender I'd actually get better treatment.

[Chachibenji]

See, after Strawberry set the bar so low, I see it was obviously a mistake to keep up the androgynous thing.

Funny. I did this specifically to keep myself from being treated different. Turns out if I told you my real gender I'd actually get better treatment.

No, you wouldnt. If you act like a jerk you get treated like a jerk, chick or dude.

[mikazuki]

(I shall leave the moderating to the Moderators, but want to say that Muffin Man's first post was honest and allowed tourist to explain why he draws the way he does, and that made me appreciate tourist's art more. *scuttles off*)

[Matthew Lim]

Don't fuckin write it off as a seperate "style".

Kullis huge girls are a style.
Iczermans large round muscles are a style.
Redsilvers bulging is a style.
Not being able to draw a human face is NOT a style.

Okay, lemme get something straight. Mannerism, cubism, exressionism, and hell while we're at it, the entire mondernist movment, these are all not styles, correct?

Look just because you don't enjoy it, that doesn't mean other people do. Tourist choosing not to abide by the "universal" standard of beauty doesn't make his artistic style any less of a style than another artist's. We all have opinion's about art, don't go around thinking yours is law.

See, after Strawberry set the bar so low, I see it was obviously a mistake to keep up the androgynous thing.

Funny. I did this specifically to keep myself from being treated different. Turns out if I told you my real gender I'd actually get better treatment.

Oh woe is you…

No you wouldn't get better treatment. The only difference is that we call you a bitch instead of a dick.

And don't go blabing off about "everyone in this forum is against me." Because that line is really stale.

[tourist]

??? ::) 😉 ;D

to avoid these wars in the future, i will post my pictures only on my website and my blog and maybe announce updates here in the announcement section. i 'm sorry i cannot meet anyones standards but i enjoy drawing and would like to continue doing so.

so check out
http://www.gasolinepoweredyouth.com
for updates and no hard feelings from my side.

later…

t.

[sybic26]

Do it the way it fits you the best. I'm going to watch your pictures in the future too. May it be on your blog or in this forum.

Thanks for sharing your pictures and I liked them before and I'm sure I will like the in the future.;D

[The Muffin man]

No, you wouldnt. If you act like a jerk you get treated like a jerk, chick or dude.

You never saw her exit.

[00tree]

A person's sex, skin tone, religion, nationality, age, or econmic status does NOTmake being rude acceptable or "cute". I try not to interact with posts that I think are going to get nasty and this one most deffinately has. You treat me like crap and I don't talk to you, plain and simple.

[Debido-San]

*scratches head*

heh..umm…00tree, he hasn't directed anything to you in that last post of his, just gonna clear that up before he has something to bite your head off for.

Alright here's the deal Muffy, you're a guy, no need to hide that and make people…nahh, this whole forum take pity on you because all of the sudden you got a sex change.

The deal with Strawberry is that she started out nice. The idea of a rather friendly, already attractive girl wanting to buff up and show us pictures of her and her progress would strike a chord with any of us. Most of us guys are single and desperate (although surprisingly that's not the case with most of the guys I personally talk to on here), and the thought of maybe having a girl like that, even if she's online, talk to you and do something special for you, like pose in pictures just because you told her how pretty she is amazing. Of course we would show her a bit more respect and all that, because maybe doing that would get us some brownie points, you know?

Sure, ok, "She was a bitch and got mad at you guys for liking her", and that's not exactly understandable, but can you really blame us for sucking right back up? Dude, love is like the most powerful force around, and the most versatile too, even if it's not true love and is just physical attraction, it can push us to do incredible things (especially incredibly stupid), or blind us. Of course we're gonna suck up, because we're blinded and we just want more pictures.

And if you expect men -not- to treat women favorably, then you're mistaken. That's how it is in every Europeanized country. From the local highschool to the Queen of England, we will always treat women, especially the really sweet, or the extremely attractive (even if these attractive ones are nut cases), with more sappy-niceness than our coolest male friends. You only have two bucks and you're in a bar, most likely (unless you're really loyal/cool like that) you'll think about asking that woman you've been checking out the whole night if she wants something before you'd ask your best buddy sitting across from you. Just because maybe there's the possibility that you can talk to her more, and more personally. Your friend? You can see him every day, it's not like this is the first and last time you'll ever see him. And it's not like you want to marry him, have sex with him, or have long strolls on the beach/candlelight dinners with him either.  😛

As for the whole "Ohh I'm I girl" bit, nahh, we're not gonna treat you any differently than before. You started out like this. Strawberry on the other hand started out cool, giving people time to fall in love or whatever they fell into.

Yep, I just made an ass of myself. Yeah, I'm a bastard both literally and figureatively. But I really just wanted to blow off some steam. -In a nice way-.

Before I start wrapping it all up, I'd also like to point out that you, Muffin Man, brought this whole thing back up about two weeks after it had all been said and done. The only one that thought the last word wasn't said was you.

Sorry if I offended anybody, even you Muffin Man, but I told it how I see it.

And especially sorry to you, Tourist, for continuing to muck around off the whole point of this topic in your thread like this 😛

[00tree]

Sorry but i disagree with not being able to treat men and wemen as equals in this or any other respect. I don't tallerate being treated like dirt from anyone no matter how pretty they are or aren't. Oh and BTW Debido-Son no effence taken, I just have a different way of thinking.

           I said my peace and will not post on this discution again.

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