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May 20, 2009 at 3:27 pm #82561
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ParticipantHere is something that I suppose is relevant to the PED discussion. Funny in some ways, sad in others: Event canceled after competitors flee
You know, back when I used to post on the UnrealMuscle boards, I would be hounded for suggesting that a lot of BBers took steroids. It was like an elephant in the room, I mentioned the elephant and was made a bit of a pariah. Sad as this is, I'm not surprised. It's why I pointed-out earlier in this thread that, if BBing is ever to become anything less than a joke amongst the general public, they are either going to have to take this Belgian approach everywhere, or the governments of the UK and US will have to deregulate steroid usage.
When you mention NO2, do you mean a product brandname or the gas itself?
May 20, 2009 at 3:47 pm #82562AlexG
KeymasterWhen you mention NO2, do you mean a product brandname or the gas itself?
**I think** he's refering to Nitric Oxide (NO) supplement products:
Link: http://www.nutritionexpress.com/bodybuilding/nitric+oxide/
The one called NO-Xplode, sounds like something from a FMG story. 😉
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)May 20, 2009 at 4:03 pm #82563Tonus
ParticipantWhen you mention NO2, do you mean a product brandname or the gas itself?
I think that NO2 was the brand name of the product, and that it was really NO, as AlexG said. I just recall the claims they were making (about having perpetually 'pumped' muscles) and that "NO2" was emblazoned on a brochure in big letters. It seemed designed more for show than for actual physical improvement.
May 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm #82564Trash Boat
ParticipantI don't understand, why the testers were there?
May 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm #82565cpbell0033944
ParticipantI don't understand, why the testers were there?
I presume they were from the accrediting body?
May 20, 2009 at 5:35 pm #82566Trash Boat
ParticipantI presume they were from the accrediting body?
I had to check that one from the dictionary. I reckon they might be.
Comical situation.
May 20, 2009 at 6:05 pm #82567Tonus
ParticipantI don't understand, why the testers were there?
As cpbell said, they are probably sent by whoever is sponsoring the event. Then again, I would assume that this testing is in their rules and that the bodybuilders should not have been surprised, so perhaps some other governing body decided to make a random visit. From what the article says, they've been tested before. Lots of details are missing, so all we can do is guess.
May 20, 2009 at 7:42 pm #82568cpbell0033944
ParticipantAs cpbell said, they are probably sent by whoever is sponsoring the event. Then again, I would assume that this testing is in their rules and that the bodybuilders should not have been surprised, so perhaps some other governing body decided to make a random visit. From what the article says, they've been tested before. Lots of details are missing, so all we can do is guess.
Yes, my thoughts entirely. It does seem odd that the possibility of testing would be in the rules for that federation if the competitors were caught unawares.
BTW, sorry Maitolasi for slipping that long word in LOL – not showing-off, I do this sometimes.May 20, 2009 at 8:19 pm #82569AlexG
KeymasterI think that NO2 was the brand name of the product, and that it was really NO, as AlexG said. I just recall the claims they were making (about having perpetually 'pumped' muscles) and that "NO2" was emblazoned on a brochure in big letters. It seemed designed more for show than for actual physical improvement.
Basically, NO helps to increase strength, if used in conjunction w/ creatine – but more so, endurance (for longer then normal workouts) and your turnover time in recovery.
I don't know of anyone whose had "perpetually pumped muscles" from using it, but certainly the "pumped" effect lasts a great deal longer post-workout and decreases the bodily fatigue you might start to feel later in the day.
“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)May 20, 2009 at 9:23 pm #82570cpbell0033944
ParticipantBasically, NO helps to increase strength, if used in conjunction w/ creatine – but more so, endurance (for longer then normal workouts) and your turnover time in recovery.
I don't know of anyone whose had "perpetually pumped muscles" from using it, but certainly the "pumped" effect lasts a great deal longer post-workout and decreases the bodily fatigue you might start to feel later in the day.
Hmm…as a biologist who has done some muscle research, I'm a touch dubious about this. I stress that I'm not commenting on the claimed vasodilatory effect of NO because I'm not well-informed enough on this particular idea, but I can't see how that would affect raw strength. Endurnce, yes: increased blood flow to muscles = incresed oxygen availabilty = less need to switch to anaerobic respiration, therefore reduced build-up of anaerobic metabolites such as lactic acid.
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