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January 29, 2009 at 7:05 pm #79066cpbell0033944Participant
Thanks for the information, Maitolasi. Though I am no great fan of Becca Swanson, I would be very annoyed if she wasn't invited on beauty grounds. How backwards!
January 29, 2009 at 8:29 pm #79067Trash BoatParticipantThanks for the information, Maitolasi. Though I am no great fan of Becca Swanson, I would be very annoyed if she wasn't invited on beauty grounds. How backwards!
I don't remember how the other side replied to this, but this was Becca's side to the case. Whatever the reasons were, it is a shame to the competition titled "world strongest" if a powerlifting record holder can't take part in it.
Previous years there has been a shortage of organizers, but thanks to the active Poles, the competition has been arrenged. I guess strength sports are really popular there.
No problem. Glad if interested.
January 30, 2009 at 8:29 am #79068ant1937ParticipantHad alot to do with the whole anti-roid thing and more to do with sponsors pulling out. Altoids was the sponsor. I think it might be hard to argue Becca, let alone some of the others, were drug free.
That is reality. I love strongwoman myself. You need marketable women for it to work on TV.January 30, 2009 at 11:51 pm #79069cpbell0033944ParticipantHad alot to do with the whole anti-roid thing and more to do with sponsors pulling out. Altoids was the sponsor. I think it might be hard to argue Becca, let alone some of the others, were drug free.
That is reality. I love strongwoman myself. You need marketable women for it to work on TV.Fair enough. The answer, therefore, is to drug test everyone and send home those who fail, not omit those who look and sound as though they are steroid users.
February 1, 2009 at 11:51 am #79070ant1937ParticipantThe show would not be very good with drug esting.The WSM is always held in acountry that does not have laws against steroids. Ever notice that? The womens was the same deal.
Look at natural bbing. Why hasn't natural fbbing caught on even when fbbing had a cult following. The naturals looked like stick figures. Not many women in the sport who don't dabble. Lets be honest. They all will deny it because they have to. I should not even say that. Joanna Thomas and Kristy Hawkins were pretty up front up using on their TV appearances. Kristy said it in a different way, but she admitted.
I think it is accepted in the sport. The men's bbing never gets whrre it did without roids. Fans want roids. Just don't tell them. Only Melissa Garrett benched the 500 with a drug test and she's over 300 and real strong and big.
I'm just trying to be real. I like the look of the big girls. Sometimes it can be overdone and the roids do get you with heavy use over time. Some grils can persist for awhile without drastci change. Others can't. You hear tyhe voices. Some of the girls at the WSE sounded like truck drivers. You saw it. That doesn't sell well with sponsors and drug tested women would not often look the part.
The mens end has even lost some sponsors. Arnold, who tells you not to use roids, would be an absolute nobody without them. Think about what launched his career. Steroids. Good timing. Much like the CEO's who got out before everyone starting getting caught in fraud. It was always there.
My favorite girls are the big and bad ones with looks. It just is a hard look to keep for long.
The school teacher from Finland had the look they liked to sell and was very good in the competition. She came in just ahead of Robin Coleman for 2nd and behind Jill Mills. She used speed in the events she could. Not as much brute power, but still real strong. Forgot her name. She stopped after the 2nd year and that hurt. You need one or two lookers to be fair.
No way is Becca passing a drug test if you've followed her whole career. She was about 180 and went to 240. Her bench went from 220 to 520. Just do the math and use your eyes and ears.
February 1, 2009 at 11:57 am #79071ant1937ParticipantJust to toss it in….I've been around roids quite a bit. Played sports through college and have been around them my whole life. It gives you a real up close look to see how it changed guys you played with and what they said about it. I was a measly 315 pound bench guy which is laughable to most guys I pleayed with, though OI had other physical skills that made up for it. Having strangth and using it are two different things.
There are certain things you notice as obvious signs of use. I like how the girls look. I'm just telling it like it is. Some people never were around them and don't know much about roids. That obviously included all of the congressional guys who questioned ML basebal players.That was so amazing to me. So is their knowledge of finance….or lack thereof. Real scary stuff.
February 1, 2009 at 3:09 pm #79072Trash BoatParticipantHave to agree with you. Let's be honest, stop the insincerity and admit that people like things beeing big: big numbers, big lifts, big people and so on no matter what it takes. People still talk about how Ben Johnson was so incredible, but then when he cought up using steroids, he was suddenly a traitor. Yes, in a way he is, because he didn't follow the rules, but somehow people wan't to believe that is not true even though they know nowadays how the reality is. But they don't care. Performance-enhancing drugs are part of the scene, always was and always will.
But ant already said these well. I'm just agreeing with him. But I don't want to change this in to a roid conversation once again. Let's just enjoy what we have. But I still like to bring up that not the strongwoman or -man competitions are always held in the countries where you can use roids freely. European contest have been held in Norway and Sweden, and I don't know how the law goes there, but I have quite a solid guess that it is not legal stuff there.
The school teacher from Finland had the look they liked to sell and was very good in the competition. She came in just ahead of Robin Coleman for 2nd and behind Jill Mills. She used speed in the events she could. Not as much brute power, but still real strong. Forgot her name. She stopped after the 2nd year and that hurt. You need one or two lookers to be fair.
Heini Koivuniemi. Actually she was competing as long as until 2006. She didn't do very well anymore. She was not as strong as many of her rivals, but if I remember right, she was quite good in deadlift: over 200 kilos (440 lbs, for you cavemans 😉 ) with IPF-rules.
February 2, 2009 at 12:49 am #79073Trash BoatParticipantBumbed in to this video while surfing on the net. Heini threw a 12.3 kg (27.1 lbs) beer keg over a bar at a height of 3.46 m (11 ft 4.2in) on the set of Guinness World Records in Helsinki, Finland in August 2001.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MBlFy64i18
Didn't find whether this record still stands or not. Guess not. On Aneta's website you can suggest what record she's going to try break next, and this is one of the alternatives. I voted for this because this it's quite weird but interesting. I think people in the scene might patronize these kind on strength features, bur as for a everyday regular guy, these are interesting and fun to watch. And that Guinness records are all about I reckon. I guess olympic lifters would perform very well in this explosive movement.
Edit: typos, typos. Sorry about my English.
February 2, 2009 at 2:49 am #79074ant1937ParticipantGood stuff guys. I wish they would find a drug to make the girls so big and strong without the side effects. Some still look great for awhile. The roids of today aren't quite as bad as the old school ones, but they still go back to needing to have some testosterone base. The HGH helps get more growth now. You still need to roids though.
It is a contradiction. People want the biggest and the baddest, but in money sports it is cheating. Bodybuilding is not a big money sport, so people didn't care about abuse. Baseball records going down was big enough to bring congress into it.
I can see why the WSW and even the WSM has died down though. Hard to want to sponsor that from an image point of view. I'd sponsor it, but if I want my product to sell….I can't really do that. You have to avoid controversy. The sponsor money went into fitness and even that is less now.
February 13, 2009 at 4:33 am #79075siouxcountryParticipantLori Steele interviewed NPC bodybuilder Jennifer Cowan & Strongwoman Becca Swanson on Siouxcountry Radio.
Interview posted: Wed, 11 Feb 2009
Click on the link below and scroll down to find it………….
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