[AlexG]

I don’t know if I really believe this article or not,
but thought I’d pass it along for your edification and consideration. :unsure:

Daily Mail Online – Sunday, Aug 14 2011

Your imagination is not playing tricks on you – children really are becoming less creative, study shows
By Daily Mail Reporter

Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025568/Your-imagination-playing-tricks–children-really-creative-study-shows.html

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[Danny]

I doubt it.

Creativity is an abstract idea, I find it hard to believe that any individual or group of scientist can accurately gauge a massive group of people’s imagination and claim it’s gone down when no one in the past bothered to do the same.

Where’s the comparison? Where’s the facts and report citations? Where’s the record of the decades long study it would take to lay such a claim?

In the end, I think this article is just a fake column by someone who wants to get people riled up against No Child Left Behind. Terrible journalism on the author’s part resorting to lying to get anti-NCLB supporters instead of using actual, legitimate arguments.

[Robert McNay]

In the end, I think this article is just a fake column by someone who wants to get people riled up against No Child Left Behind. Terrible journalism on the author’s part resorting to lying to get anti-NCLB supporters instead of using actual, legitimate arguments.

“Riled up” against No Child Left Behind? I doubt it, considering the Daily Mail is a BRITISH newspaper.

Why do you folks think everybody’s out to get you? :whistle: 🙂

[Danny]

Why do you folks think everybody’s out to get you? :whistle: 🙂

Out to get me? All I did was doubt an internet tabloid… Out to get folks like me? Hell I don’t even post enough on this site for you to know that I’m anything more than a fbb appreciator. That puts you in the same group.

[BadIdeas]

I worked with kids for a few years and I tend to think creativity is going the way of the dinosaur. Teachers do not help the situation much either at least in public schools. There is a real “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” mentality that I also found in the art school I attended. The saying should go “If it ain’t broke, improve it.”

It’s something, at least in the U.S. we are handing down to our kids. Do not create, but use an idea that worked before and Kanye West it into your own. I taught a lot of art classes and I’d often just tell the kids to draw anything they wanted. At least half the class just starred at the paper like “is he serious what do I do?!”

This is only indicative of the states I’ve taught in and the Art Institutes general philosophy and my personal opinions. I really think we as a people, a human people, need to get back into a skys the limit mindset and stop telling people “don’t reinvent the wheel.”

As a closing thought I would like to take a few minutes to daydream about sushi *~-*!@`*

[Robert McNay]

[quote=”CptMatt” post=102608]

Why do you folks think everybody’s out to get you? :whistle: 🙂

Out to get me? All I did was doubt an internet tabloid… Out to get folks like me? Hell I don’t even post enough on this site for you to know that I’m anything more than a fbb appreciator. That puts you in the same group.[/quote]

From my eperience from several discussion groups and community websites, folks who defend No Child Left Behind that vehemently are usually of one political party. And that party usually has the attitude of “if you ain’t with us, yer aginst us”.

And you did a bit more than “doubt”, you actually cast an accusation by claiming the column was fake and saying that the author was out to “get people riled up against No Child Left Behind”. I pointed out that the “tabloid” in question and the columnist were both British and could probably care less, if they’ve even heard heard of NCLB.

[Danny]

From my eperience from several discussion groups and community websites, folks who defend No Child Left Behind that vehemently are usually of one political party. And that party usually has the attitude of “if you ain’t with us, yer aginst us”.

Stop that. At no point did I say that there’s nothing wrong NCLB. That was not the point and never will be the point, you say “vehemently defended” when that was never the case. Not then and not now. You do not know my politics, nor would anyone here be able to guess because I’m not going to discuss them… there’s just no point. Don’t make assumptions and toss me into groups for nothing.

And you did a bit more than “doubt”, you actually cast an accusation by claiming the column was fake and saying that the author was out to “get people riled up against No Child Left Behind”. I pointed out that the “tabloid” in question and the columnist were both British and could probably care less, if they’ve even heard heard of NCLB.

And to strongly doubt something is wrong? When I toss phrases like “I find it hard to believe” and “I think” then I cannot back any of my arguments with fact. And wouldn’t try to. Instead of claiming that I must think someone’s out to get me and an unnamed group, how about proving me wrong?

You could have, turns out it seems like Kyung Hee Kim and the College of William and Mary totally checks out. Still can’t find much outside news reports (all of which pointed towards newsweek here http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/10/the-creativity-crisis.html ) which is distressing because that is a very serious claim.

Do I still think the author of that DMO News article had a purpose outside of being informative? Yes. Do I still think he or she went about it the wrong way? Yes, strongly even

[demented20]

I think Dr. Kim did himself and his article a disservice by even mentioning No Child Left Behind. Just like on this board the focus hasn’t been on the fact that kids have less original ideas and instead has become a discussion about a political policy. The small cynical part of me says that maybe this was the purpose from the start. I sure hope not.

The problem is that I tend to agree that kids are less creative, but I don’t think it has a thing to do with NCLB. Personally I think it has more to do with the fact that kids get prepackaged spoonfed entertainment from the earliest of ages. They don’t get a chance to be a kid and do ridiculous things.

[joey7x]

Anyone else find it funny that a standardized test was used to correlate the effects of a focus on standardized testing?

Try observing a kid that has an ass whooping on the line, you’ll see some real mental gymnastics.

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