[sacul]

[quote=”massivebodybuilder” post=110916]It really just depends on the individual. I’m not saying that going the adult themed route is bad, we all have to make a living somehow and the powers that be within the IFBB do NOT make it easy for women at all. The prizes are laughable for the women compared to the men. Why?

I think you answered your own question with your next line.

Outside of a niche subculture, no marketability,
therefore no need for them as reps and/or spokesmouths for selling products for a profit.

All because middle America can’t accept women who are muscular

This is not strictly limited to the US, this is true whereever you go in the world.

Conversely, the women, many of whom look like they’ve been hit with an ugly stick just don’t know when to stop using the juice. Not exactly the kind of visual standard bearers that you want if your goal to win over the mainstream to the sport. Major turn off, not only to men, but especially women.

Go back to the 80’s, seems like every FBBr that hit the scene was amazingly attractive and consequently not as threatening in the eyes of the public. Were drugs used then, certainly. However, they seemed to have a better sense of physique balance w/ their femininity that is lacking with the current generation. Perhaps this is because they were well aware that as a vanguard they were role models as well as athletes to any women that would follow them. Fast forward to today that aspect is gone.[/quote]

that certainly seems to be the case. i feel that if the culture had stayed since the 80s, bodybuilding may have been a mainstream competitive sport like any other. just curious AlexG since i know you’re a bit of a fitness buff, assuming a woman has the perfect genetics for building muscle and all the right supplements and a good protein diet, how long will it take her to bulk up to FBB standard and can she still retain her feminity that way?

[Jared]

I believe the reason why Joanna didn’t continue with pro bodybuilding was that she was sort of pushed out by the fact that she was trying to earn a living with her website, webcam sessions, videos, etc. It’s pretty common to see the girls that turn to online media whether it be soft or hard core porn type, ususally don’t end up on stage competing again. Joanna Thomas, Denise Masino, Yvette Bova, Lynn McCrossin just to name a few. Denise out of that group had the most promising physique and career.

Even some of the newer girls on the scene are starting to drop out of competition because there’s more money in the fetish of muscle than the actual sport.

I recently came across Kristy Hawkins locally. Instantly recognized her mentioned she’s “semi-retired’ now. Yet her physique was no where near contest shape. She has taken her career in another direction, working in the bio-tech field and she was on a different documentary that cast women bodybuilders in a similar light.

I’ve read some of Joanna’s blogs and she said she might come out of retirement and get back into bodybuilding. I hope that’s true.

The only female bodybuilders I can name off the top of my head that haven’t done porn seem to be the more veteran female bodybuilders like Iris Kyle or Yaxeni Oriquen.

It really just depends on the individual. I’m not saying that going the adult themed route is bad, we all have to make a living somehow and the powers that be within the IFBB do NOT make it easy for women at all. The prizes are laughable for the women compared to the men. Why?

All because middle America can’t accept women who are muscular

I can understand people who aren’t attracted to female bodybuilders, but respect their hard work and dedication, however I can’t stand these intolerant, sexist and homophobic guys who attack female bodybuilders.

Who remembers when the Mr. and Ms. Olympia used to be on NETWORK TV? (yes I’m dating myself here). Who remembers when ESPN used to have amateur and pro shows on air?

Well I was born in 1992 so no. I only learned about female bodybuilder because of the internet.

[Jared]

This is not strictly limited to the US, this is true whereever you go in the world.

Most female bodybuilders however live in the USA. Six out of the nine Ms. Olympia champions have been Americans. Eastern Europe also has a culture of muscular women. Can’t name to many female bodybuilder from the middle east.

Conversely, the women, many of whom look like they’ve been hit with an ugly stick just don’t know when to stop using the juice. Not exactly the kind of visual standard bearers that you want if your goal to win over the mainstream to the sport. Major turn off, not only to men, but especially women.

I disagree. Maybe it’s my bisexuality, but I don’t care how much they juice up. The more roids the better I say. The female bodybuilders of the 1980s weren’t really bodybuilders. They are by today’s standards fitness competitors. Female bodybuilding only got better in the 1990s with Kim Chizevsky.

Personally I don’t care how mainstream female bodybuilding is. Hell even male bodybuilding isn’t mainstream. I just wish female bodybuilders where payed more. It’s just sicking how little they are payed compared to men.

[BodybyBane]

“. The female bodybuilders of the 1980s weren’t really bodybuilders. They are by today’s standards fitness competitors. Female bodybuilding only got better in the 1990s with Kim Chizevsky.”
“Personally I don’t care how mainstream female bodybuilding is OR becomes. Hell even male bodybuilding isn’t mainstream. I just wish female bodybuilders where payed more. It’s just sicking how little they are payed compared to men.”

I was born in the late 70s&gotta wholeheartedly agree with this post.
People keep blowing smoke about bodybulding in the 80s but it wasnt all that great you just remember it that way
As a bartender i heard kids in their 20s talk like they’ve been around forever about how great everthing was in the 90s&old-timers at HappyHour go on&on bout how great 50s and 60s were
if Arnold hadnt become a movie star nobody would give a crap back then
Just like all your muscleheads wanna be wrestlers now becuz that’s who have the big muscles&fame
Chyna,Cena,Triple H
Not 1 single new skool gym rat is trying out for auditions to act,..will show up for wrestling,crossfit etc

[Bane Dorrance]

Did you all know that Joanna “BUFF BARBIE “Thomas documentary from TLC had a sequel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slZZJkNEUJQ

[AlexG]

that certainly seems to be the case. i feel that if the culture had stayed since the 80s, bodybuilding may have been a mainstream competitive sport like any other. just curious AlexG since i know you’re a bit of a fitness buff, assuming a woman has the perfect genetics for building muscle and all the right supplements and a good protein diet, how long will it take her to bulk up to FBB standard and can she still retain her feminity that way?

Somehow I missed answering this question until now, don’t know if you’ll log on to see my reply, but what the hey . . . B)

Mind you, this is purely a subjective opinion.

If they took their time, were able to commit to it with consistence and continuity 24/7/364 and probably with the supervision of a personal trainer I’d say it would take about five years to gain an exceptional-level physique – however, w/ a caveat – they’d not look anything like the current era FBBrs that are using gear to boost their size way beyond any naturally gained achievement.

Still would be impressive looking, tho.

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[AlexG]

that certainly seems to be the case. i feel that if the culture had stayed since the 80s, bodybuilding may have been a mainstream competitive sport like any other. just curious AlexG since i know you’re a bit of a fitness buff, assuming a woman has the perfect genetics for building muscle and all the right supplements and a good protein diet, how long will it take her to bulk up to FBB standard and can she still retain her feminity that way?

Somehow I missed answering this question until now, don’t know if you’ll log on to see my reply, but what the hey . . . B)

Mind you, this is purely a subjective opinion.

If they took their time, were able to commit to it with consistence and continuity 24/7/364 and probably with the supervision of a personal trainer I’d say it would take about five years to gain an exceptional-level physique – however, w/ a caveat – they’d not look anything like the current era FBBrs that are using gear to boost their size way beyond any naturally gained achievement.

Still would be impressive looking, tho.

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[Bane Dorrance]

Somehow I missed answering this question until now, don’t know if you’ll log on to see my reply, but what the hey . . . B)
Mind you, this is purely a subjective opinion.
If they took their time, were able to commit to it with consistence and continuity 24/7/364 and probably with the supervision of a personal trainer I’d say it would take about five years to gain an exceptional-level physique – however, w/ a caveat – they’d not look anything like the current era FBBrs that are using gear to boost their size way beyond any naturally gained achievement.
Still would be impressive looking, tho.

on Instagram would be a real indicator

[AlexG]

that certainly seems to be the case. i feel that if the culture had stayed since the 80s, bodybuilding may have been a mainstream competitive sport like any other. just curious AlexG since i know you’re a bit of a fitness buff, assuming a woman has the perfect genetics for building muscle and all the right supplements and a good protein diet, how long will it take her to bulk up to FBB standard and can she still retain her feminity that way?

Somehow I missed answering this question until now, don’t know if you’ll log on to see my reply, but what the hey . . . B)

Mind you, this is purely a subjective opinion.

If they took their time, were able to commit to it with consistence and continuity 24/7/364 and probably with the supervision of a personal trainer I’d say it would take about five years to gain an exceptional-level physique – however, w/ a caveat – they’d not look anything like the current era FBBrs that are using gear to boost their size way beyond any naturally gained achievement.

Still would be impressive looking, tho.

Just as an addendum,
you’d also have to use ultra high quality supplements* not stuff that you normally see in Walmart, GNC etal.

*(i.e. products put out by Infowars Life Heath Store or Heath Masters.com)

“I like a good story well told. That is the reason I am sometimes forced to tell them myself.”
~ Mark Twain / Samuel Clemens (1907)

[Bane Dorrance]

Just as an addendum,
you’d also have to use ultra high quality supplements* not stuff that you normally see in Walmart, GNC etal.

*(i.e. products put out by Infowars Life Heath Store or Heath Masters.com)

hahaha,…
i.see.what.you.did.there

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