[Solarian, aka LordDaroth]

I agree with the last comment. Piracy is unstoppable, but selling the stuff?

That's something that I can't get over with…

And I admit, that I was a member there too. But how things are going there… Man, that was enough…

[Lingster]

There are tons of people who pirate material to resell.  And it's been going on for years – it first happened to me about 10 years ago, when some purveyor I won't mention by name was selling CDs with stories on 'em, including my stories.  There was a guy down in Argentina who used to burn all the pay site videos to DVD and sell 'em – I think he's stopped.  There's a lot of trashy stuff going on out there.

[greyfox]

Equally as funny as the "pay me for pirated stuff" is the fact that they say you can become a member by collecting "X" amount of karma points instead of donating 15 bucks, but cant't view/access any of the forums to do exactly that!.

It proves that their out for only money and could care less about the fbb community as a whole.

[TheMKFB]

Probably the wrong place to introduce myslef, so
I'll make it quick. I've been around in various guises… actually no, just names since the Big Mouthera and I'm back this time to just talk, I'm a good boy I am, I promise.
I've just read this thread through and can't help but think of the hypocrisy (and I include myself) that is breeding here. Personally I had joined said forum in the recent past and was banned in what seemed like hours for posting support in a thread that objected to how it operates. I'm probably wrong, but it might have been Rick who started the thread. So no big loss, I really didn't like the site.
But who here hasn't watched a video on say, Dailymotion, that the poster didn't have rights to? I'm guessing none of us.
I understand that this is, in an odd manner…well… political, and also affects those who spend the time, effort and money. Which in turn short changes those who are genuine consumers of a prefectly legitimate product.
So why aren't we infuriated to the point of vocal opinion over every other kind of piracy? Or are you?
Did I go too far?

[crazyfck]

The funny thing is that all relevant boards on sawadas are VIP now.

And you must have XXX karma points to access them. But how? You cannot post anything on those boards, they are closed for you. So you have to pay for them. 

It was stupid and greedy. Because if I'm willing to pay, I'll do it for the video and image owners, because when you are buying something, you are doing an investment for them to make more. And being honest, is not that expensive and you have real service.

Now, paying for links of rapidshare? It just does the opposite for the models and companies who bring them. Bad karma for you.

Donation must a willingly act, if not, is charging.

[Lingster]

Probably the wrong place to introduce myslef, so
I'll make it quick. I've been around in various guises… actually no, just names since the Big Mouthera and I'm back this time to just talk, I'm a good boy I am, I promise.
I've just read this thread through and can't help but think of the hypocrisy (and I include myself) that is breeding here. Personally I had joined said forum in the recent past and was banned in what seemed like hours for posting support in a thread that objected to how it operates. I'm probably wrong, but it might have been Rick who started the thread. So no big loss, I really didn't like the site.
But who here hasn't watched a video on say, Dailymotion, that the poster didn't have rights to? I'm guessing none of us.
I understand that this is, in an odd manner…well… political, and also affects those who spend the time, effort and money. Which in turn short changes those who are genuine consumers of a prefectly legitimate product.
So why aren't we infuriated to the point of vocal opinion over every other kind of piracy? Or are you?
Did I go too far?

I oppose it mostly for a practical reason: too much piracy stifles new content production.  Sawadas has made too much of a spectacle of itself – too much attention is focused on it and its owner.  My prediction is Sawadas will be gone soon.

[The Muffin man]

Probably the wrong place to introduce myslef, so
I'll make it quick. I've been around in various guises… actually no, just names since the Big Mouthera and I'm back this time to just talk, I'm a good boy I am, I promise.
I've just read this thread through and can't help but think of the hypocrisy (and I include myself) that is breeding here. Personally I had joined said forum in the recent past and was banned in what seemed like hours for posting support in a thread that objected to how it operates. I'm probably wrong, but it might have been Rick who started the thread. So no big loss, I really didn't like the site.
But who here hasn't watched a video on say, Dailymotion, that the poster didn't have rights to? I'm guessing none of us.
I understand that this is, in an odd manner…well… political, and also affects those who spend the time, effort and money. Which in turn short changes those who are genuine consumers of a prefectly legitimate product.
So why aren't we infuriated to the point of vocal opinion over every other kind of piracy? Or are you?
Did I go too far?

Because Daily Motion doesn't make me pay to use it, and hide it under "donations".

On top of that, I cannot COUNT the number of times I've sought out a show or album because I heard the music or saw the episode on Youtube/Dailymotion.

[David C. Matthews]

Because Daily Motion doesn't make me pay to use it, and hide it under "donations".

THAT is the big sticking point with people like me.  I was a former member of the forum in question, and contributed (for FREE) several of my drawings… which were then taken (WITHOUT compensation) and put behind the "donations" firewall.

On top of that, I cannot COUNT the number of times I've sought out a show or album because I heard the music or saw the episode on Youtube/Dailymotion.

Same with me.  I became a fan of Tohru Nishimaki's hentai manga Blue Eyes from downloading the pages from a Usenet group.  I'm now buying the actual volumes from J-List (even though I can't read Japanese) because I want to support his career.

[Solarian, aka LordDaroth]

That's all good. But what about us? I mean NonAmericans. We CAN'T order things, because almost all good femuscle material exist only whithin the states. Even if I had the money, bank account or whatever to sign up for a page, I couldn't make benefits of it.

I am finished with s*radas because of the assh*les there, but I don't say that I didn't download from there.

I am sorry if this upset some people, but this is the case. IMHO

[10-4]

That's all good. But what about us? I mean NonAmericans. We CAN'T order things, because almost all good femuscle material exist only whithin the states.

One way to remedy that is to take matters into your own hands. Learn to draw, and then use those skills to make fem muscle art in your home country. It can be hard work, but it's doable.

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