[sheila_new_shehulk]

I would definitely call myself a writer as well, just not a FMG one, not yet at least, i hope i can become one later on in my life, but iv read alot of stories, and one thing i've learned from looking bak at reading those, is that it definitely turns me off when you have to wait forever for the next segment of the story, but i understand that were lucky enuf the authors are even sharing them with us. But iv found that I PREFER one segment after another, because I hate reading long stories unless there broken up like that, but when a author keeps on givin consistantly, i found tat thats a bonus, eagores SHOE2 was updated almost two times a week, so i found that even though there wer chapters i DIDNT like(o how few those were) I still kept checking my magic crayons every tuesday and saturday, mainly because Eagore never gave me a chance to get bored with the story.

And while were here, I'd like to ask these great authors, how'd you discover your talent. Like strawberry, Iv won contests and prizes for stories, and I am a official poet, have 8 published poems, and have been a part of "twisted rhyme" since i was 14 (plz no1 ask me to write a FMG poem, I've tried but cant seem to bend my imagination and skill into that direction) but anytime I try i cant seem to write good FMG stories, I have so many ideas in my mind that are great, but when writin, suddenly lose about 99% of there quality.

[Anonymous]

Ms. Sheila, high-five to you for your writing accomplishments 🙂 We rule.

You pointed out that segments (chapters?) right after another are a good way to break things up since you don't like reading this big, long thing in one sitting. I agree. This brings up another question: Does the first/introductory chapter have to have FMG in it?

[osquip]

Great comments on story writing!

One comment on having the woman start out muscular already – this can work and still be muscle growth if you incorporate in a flashback about how she grew muscular.  That way you have already established she will be muscular, but also get the growth.  The woman's growth can always continue, also (which can be interesting if people think she is already through growing…)

No one has mentioned it, but you will want to give some thought about the woman’s outlook.  Is she gentle, dominant, etc.  You probably already have ideas, but dominant vs gentle seems to be a major dichotomy in FMG stories.

Things to avoid that come to mind…

1.  Avoid excessive reliance on numbers when describing growth.  It bugs me when I see a story that relies heavily on using numbers exclusively for descriptions (e.g. “her arm used to be only 12 inches, but quickly grew to 14, the, 22 inches!”)  Occasional reference to measurements is OK, but using it exclusively to describe gets monotonous.  Descriptions of comparisons or relative sizes tend to be better, I feel.

2.  Related to numbers again, try to avoid too much description of every pound a woman is able to lift after growing.  Two instances of these that bother me – (1) excessive listing of each lift to woman can make (she should lift 50 lbs an hour ago, then 60 lbs, and now 70 lbs!) , and (2) unrealistic numbers.  Unrealistic numbers are fine if super strength is involved, but if a woman picks up a car, I don’t care how many pounds it weighs…its enough to say she lifted a car!

That’s my rant.  I’ll finish with the two best pieces of advice I ever received on writing:

Write about what you know 

Show, don’t tell 
      (e.g. don’t tell the reader a woman is super strong, or super clever, etc; show it in your writing!)

[The_Pimp_NeonBlack]

The great trick to writing any tale -FMG or other- is to make it believable. No matter how far fetched the fantasy, you must make the readers believe in you tale and the possiblities that lay within.
The best way to do this is to make fully rendered characters that the reader can empathise with.
You must dwell within your characters' skins and came to fully understand their motivations and personaltiy befor you even put pen to paper. For if you do not believe in your characters and understand them, then your readers will not either.
The other trick is to understand the how's and why's of the growth and transformations involved within your tale. There is nothing worse in a tale than growth for growth's sake. And this all feeds through to the factor of plausablity and how much disbelief your reader is willing to suspend during the course of their reading.
There is nothing else to be said in this matter that has not laready been mentioned before.
Best of luck, dear Child.
Peace
The Pimp NeonBlack

[Anonymous]

One comment on having the woman start out muscular already – this can work and still be muscle growth if you incorporate in a flashback about how she grew muscular.

:nods: Interesting, I never thought of doing that 🙂

No one has mentioned it, but you will want to give some thought about the woman’s outlook.  Is she gentle, dominant, etc.  You probably already have ideas, but dominant vs gentle seems to be a major dichotomy in FMG stories.

Actually, this is a BIG question I have. I started writing a story. I am writing it as I usually do, and people tend to respond well to my stories. I just want to ask you all, as men, if hearing what a female character is thinking is interesting or if it’s all “yap yap yap.”

I don’t care how many pounds it weighs…its enough to say she lifted a car!

I agree about the numbers thing.

Thank you for the tips, Osquip…if you could answer that question I just had, that would be extra awesome.

Thank you as well, Pimp. If you would also be interesting in answering the question I just posed, it would be most appreciated.

[Debido-San]

Ms. Sheila, high-five to you for your writing accomplishments 🙂 We rule.

You pointed out that segments (chapters?) right after another are a good way to break things up since you don't like reading this big, long thing in one sitting. I agree. This brings up another question: Does the first/introductory chapter have to have FMG in it?

lol…mine didn't…I'm hardly conventional though… (Check out "Neon Muscle Genesis Evangelion to see what I mean…I only had a character "envision" a girl as muscular while she considered hitting the gym)

I think if you're going for something deeper (like I am in NMGE) then you don't have to…although chances are many will tend to skip that chapter…being an FMG reader myself, I often skip past the story chapters…

If you're aiming to please the reader (I try to in my more "one-to-three" chapter stories) then I would put FMG in as soon as possible…but if you aim to pleasure the reader through a mix of FMG and story, do whatever feels comfortable…

[gracilis]

I just want to ask you all, as men, if hearing what a female character is thinking is interesting or if it’s all “yap yap yap.”

As you found out in the "Why muscles?" thread, a lot of us are looking for other attributes besides physical characteristics.  When I read FMG, I'm very interested in the character's reaction to her growing power.  How does this affect her self image?  How does it change how she relates to other people?  So yes, I'm interested in what the character is thinking.

There are a number of ways to communicate that — "show, don't tell" is an often repeated bit of advice, but it's not genre-specific so I probably don't need to go in to it.

I'm just about to finish this post when I noticed your wording, "what a female character is thinking."  Um, no, I don't think female characters are more likely to be read as "yap yap yap" than the male characters or asexual androids are.

[Pug]

Just a couple notations, from the perspective of someone that reads far more than he writes.

First – yeah, some people hate longs stories. On the other hand, some of us really like them. A long story generally has more plot and development, and you can flesh out stuff more. Sex stories are fun, but I prefer something longer most of the time.

Proofreading – Yeah, you'll catch ten errors proofreading stuff. You're roomie, so, sister, will catch twenty in the same timeframe. Generally better to trade off with someone else – it helps both of you more.

Paragraph length – best advice on that I've ever heard is simply to be sure that you've *decided* to make a paragraph long, or short – don't just leave it either way. A paragraph normally covers one idea or interaction – if it takes 10 sentences to cover that interaction, so be it, and vice versa if it takes 1 sentence, but don't arbitrarily shorten a paragraph to fit a specific size.

That's just my quick thoughts

[The_Pimp_NeonBlack]

I just want to ask you all, as men, if hearing what a female character is thinking is interesting or if it’s all “yap yap yap.”

Human thought is always interesting -no matter the gender, but only if it is relivant to the story and character. So, it must have context within the tale and not within merely to add content and wordcount.
But, that being said, do not be afraid to add anything to your tale if it does fit, so to speak. Not all will like it but that does not matter. If you are pleased with your content, then other's will be pleased likewise.
There is nothing left to be said by this Flesh in such a matter.
Peace
The Pimp NeonBlack

[osquip]

:Does the first/introductory chapter have to have FMG in it?

The best answer to this is that the story does not have to have anything besides what you want in it!

There will be readers who like a slow and steady buildup and others who just want to get to the 'good stuff.'  If you don't want growth in the first chapter, it does not have to be there.  You may want to hint at what is to come in the story, regardless of the current size of the woman. 

A small woman may look at her arms and fantasize about what she would do if they were bigger. 

A boyfriend could tease her for being so small. 

A woman who has already had one growth spurt could look at her undersized clothing in the closet, someone could reminisce about how much different her body is now that before, or there could be slight hints that growth is still taking place (are her sleeves tighter than they were this morning?). 

Or the foreshadowing could simply be a mysterious glowing bottle of sports drink in her refrigerator at home…

A good plot comparison would be a story or movie with a werewolf in it.  The opening usually has some strong scene with the creature.  This lets you know the general plot, what’s to come, etc.  This is followed by plot and character development.  It often is not until later that the transformation takes place in front of the main characters in its full glory.  Another example of pacing might be the steady transformation in the remake of The Fly. 

These are just some examples that come to mind – but any rate of change is possible.  To me, the most dramatic to the reader is when the reader is set up to take the fall.  Presenting the setting with a sense of normality makes the transformation all the more powerful in the story.  If transformations are occurring with a maximum of detail every other paragraph, the reader gets numbed to the process, no matter how engaging the transformation.  (Sort of like a horror movie where every 5 minutes someone gets hacked to pieces – you get bored after the first 15 min).

On another note…

Personally, one kind of plot twist I like to see in stories is a wish that is poorly phrased or where there is a critical play on words. 

Imagine a boyfriend who has an athletic girlfriend.  She has been training and getting stronger than him rapidly.  But, he finds a magic ring that will grant him one wish.  Hurray!

He thinks carefully, thinking about how he wishes she was weaker than him again.  But that’s not good enough.  In a moment of inspiration, he wishes that she was weaker and smaller than all other women.

POOF!  Suddenly, all women are bigger and stronger than his girlfriend – they are bulging with muscle and over 6’ tall.  Technically, his wish is granted.

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