[Red_Silver]

Just curious on how many can actually help me.

Besides taking inhumanly long to start a webcomic, that I promised, I been annoyed with my style. Think anyone have some advice?

My comic art progress.

Just in case people want to see more of his work, so they understand better: http://bleedman.deviantart.com/

I guess I'm looking for sites, tutorials or videos that could help or give some direction. Think anyone can help?

[Jedediah]

It looks like he is doing rough drawing in non-photo blue pencil, then drawing final lines in graphite.  He says he's doing his inking on the computer, using either Flash or Photoshop.
Looking at his pages, I would guess he is assembling them from separate drawings on the computer, rather than composing them on paper like you are doing.

[Red_Silver]

It looks like he is doing rough drawing in non-photo blue pencil, then drawing final lines in graphite.  He says he's doing his inking on the computer, using either Flash or Photoshop.
Looking at his pages, I would guess he is assembling them from separate drawings on the computer, rather than composing them on paper like you are doing.

Is a graphite different from a mechanical pencil? Just seems hard to get the lines right. I just seem to keep making them bigger and struggle on the paper too, so I guess the surface isn't good either, but some of them have a problem getting the lead to not smudge.

I thought he did it all on paper. But I guess it makes sense, if one thing doesn't work out, then the rest of the page isn't ruined, but doesn't that mean he uses alot of paper as well?

[fasola]

Hey red, besides what Jed just pointed out, how big is the paper you use?
the quality of the paper really matters, because on a heavier paper you can erase and draw more, and the paper won't sufer from the friction. Not only does he compose the images on the computer, there might also be some filter or something when he scans the images.

there are a lot of factors besides your style, involved in drawings cleaner images.

[Red_Silver]

Hey red, besides what Jed just pointed out, how big is the paper you use?
the quality of the paper really matters, because on a heavier paper you can erase and draw more, and the paper won't sufer from the friction. Not only does he compose the images on the computer, there might also be some filter or something when he scans the images.

there are a lot of factors besides your style, involved in drawings cleaner images.

Usually use A4 paper(216x279mm), from 80g to 100g.
I can't tell how he does it, if he doesn't tell me, so I have to ask people that have better insight in these things. Hope to get smarter by it.

[fasola]

wel, I personally think that A4 might be small for drawing. I just can't put too much detail on the images drawn in such paper. I can be used if you want to draw only one character, but for compossed scenes, it just isn´t big enough for some details.
Try using A3 paper, with 110g to 150g. It might be big, but you can have your hand move more frelly when drawing.
When you want to draw a particular pose, and you don't know how it might look or how to place some parts, sketch it on a different piece of paper, simple rough lines, but enough to understand the pòse, and then, when you already have the pose you want, draw it on another piece of paper, clean, without the stress marks of constant erasing and drawing. That helps a lot to maintain the image clean.
I would also recomend you to practice, but I will tell you what to practice. first sketch a lot of different poses, many times, so, when you have to draw a particular pose, you already know how to place the guide lines and you don't have to experiment on the definitive drawing. And the other advise should be the one I already mentioned, draw the sketches on one paper, and draw the final drawing on a different papaer, "copying" the pose from the sketch.

I hope this helps you Red.

[Red_Silver]

wel, I personally think that A4 might be small for drawing. I just can't put too much detail on the images drawn in such paper. I can be used if you want to draw only one character, but for compossed scenes, it just isn´t big enough for some details.
Try using A3 paper, with 110g to 150g. It might be big, but you can have your hand move more frelly when drawing.
When you want to draw a particular pose, and you don't know how it might look or how to place some parts, sketch it on a different piece of paper, simple rough lines, but enough to understand the pòse, and then, when you already have the pose you want, draw it on another piece of paper, clean, without the stress marks of constant erasing and drawing. That helps a lot to maintain the image clean.
I would also recomend you to practice, but I will tell you what to practice. first sketch a lot of different poses, many times, so, when you have to draw a particular pose, you already know how to place the guide lines and you don't have to experiment on the definitive drawing. And the other advise should be the one I already mentioned, draw the sketches on one paper, and draw the final drawing on a different papaer, "copying" the pose from the sketch.

I hope this helps you Red.

Well I could try it, but the seperated drawings might be out of my league, but I've been adviced of A3 paper, but I never really know what kind to pick. On Friday, I'll pit up some A3. The problem is I have a A4 size scanner, so I have to learn how to use that as well in a different way that I have never done before.

The seperate paper idea, it's not something I've heard before. Is that something you have tried?

[Jedediah]

Well I could try it, but the seperated drawings might be out of my league, but I've been adviced of A3 paper, but I never really know what kind to pick. On Friday, I'll pit up some A3. The problem is I have a A4 size scanner, so I have to learn how to use that as well in a different way that I have never done before.

The seperate paper idea, it's not something I've heard before. Is that something you have tried?

I use that technique when drawing comics.  I draw out roughly where the figures are going to go on good paper- just stick figures really.  Then I put it on a light box, put some sketch paper on top, and draw the various characters- making adjustments to poses, figuring out stuff- basically doing all the messy erasing and redrawing parts on a different sheet of paper.  When I'm satisfied with the drawings, I put the good paper back on top, adjust the placement of the rough drawing and trace it onto the good paper.  It's a bit complicated, but it lets me work more flexibly.

[fasola]

The seperate paper idea, it's not something I've heard before. Is that something you have tried?

Well, not only I have tried, but something I do, and I was tought to do. it really helps to maintain the image clean.

[mikazuki]

Some really helpful info there, Jed-san and fasola-san!

My little 2 cents to add for you, Red, would be to be less critical of your work. Strive to improve, sure, but not so much that it stops you from getting your work out. Bleedman and other professionals, they all started with crabby comics, not the masterpieces we see later. But as time goes by, you could see their style change, and become more refined. Comics is like a marathon, and I think endurance and discipline is just as crucial as the technical skills. So pick a day of the week where you will put up a page of comic, come rain or shine, and keep that up, and you will have won half the battle.

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