[Arnold]

– I respectfully disagree about "Hellga" (Robin Coleman) as she was second-placed in World's Strongest Woman in 2001 to Jill Mills. 

I'm sorry to say this but Robin ended up third at the WSW 2001.

1. Jill Mills  50 pts.
2. Heini Koivuniemi 48 pts.
3. Robin Coleman 35 pts.

Robin Coleman was the biggest but not the strongest. Jill Mills and Heini Koivuniemi were in a league of their own.

This not withstanding, I do think that Robin is physically stronger than Raye Hollitt. I think Raye is the better Athlete and would fare better on most of the events. Robin seemed a bit sluggish. I like to see more of her and see her compete on the other events.

[TC2]

Let's clear up a few things here.

As much as I would love to see more muscular female role models in the world, I understand how the television business works because I have done a number of projects FOR the television business.

I would have LOVED if Lena had become muscular for the role!  However, I know that when you work in TV you don't have enough budget to be hiring people to get actors into shape!  The point of TV is to make it look presentable while at the same time getting it done and out as quickly as possible.  You make a few episodes, they air it on TV then bite your nails waiting to see if you get picked up for another season.

There is no time to be spending money on personal trainers to get the girl into shape, that's only done in movies.  Only with movies will you have a big enough budget and enough time to let the actress get into shape.

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Now let's say maybe they wanted to cast someone who is muscular, tell me how many people with a decent physique can actually ACT well?

I'll clue you in, it's not that many!  Those who can might not be in a union, those who have the right physique maybe terrible actors!  When it comes to making production choices the #1 decision that overrides others is if the actor can act well!  If they're schedule is open enough to actually do the shoot, and if they look close enough to the role that you can do make up magic.

Sometimes they type cast, and sometimes they don't.  For this production it is painfully obvious that for the main characters at least they went for quality actors.  The male terminators I personally didn't think were that great acting wise, but then again they don't need to speak much do they?  However, the main characters that have the most amount of dialogue I think do an excellent job embodying their representative characters.

Under no circumstances is Lena emaciated!  When I saw her in 300 doing that nude scene her body was very pleasing to the eye as a normal woman's figure.  They had no right to make fun of her that way but at the same time when it comes to TV I know certain concessions are made in order to get production done as quickly as possible.

Also keep in mind that the producer has specifically stated, he want to DIVERGE from the movies and is creating his own time line and universe which goes in a completely different direction than the movie does.

The time for femuscular characters to shine WILL come, just don't expect it to be in the TV Terminator series.

[btx]

The time for femuscular characters to shine WILL come, just don't expect it to be in the TV Terminator series.

If not the Terminator… a movie that gave a reason for muscle in a movie… cannot be expected to promote a femuscular character, not even a female terminator (sorry Summer), then you can forget about She Hulk, or whatever strength based  amazon that's out there.

BTX

[TC2]

Not on a TV show unless it's American Gladiators.  Movies are a different story however.

[Vollar-Tile]

If not the Terminator… a movie that gave a reason for muscle in a movie… cannot be expected to promote a femuscular character, not even a female terminator (sorry Summer), then you can forget about She Hulk, or whatever strength based  amazon that's out there.

BTX

Well, a She Hulk movie is probably the place where that hope would be highest, but I'd be more worried about them making a She Hulk movie actually work,which is alot less likely. And then more important than a buffed female, there's the worry of finding a sufficiently buffed female who can *act*….

Oh wait, I'm forgetting… CGI to da rescue! Making anything possible. Least that's one thing in our court now.

[Holiday]

I'm surprised at the level of responses to Headey's physique. I always thought the reason for a slimmer Sarah was because two years have passed and they believed the threat was gone. There was also the creeping threat of leukemia which is supposed to have killed her in the future.

But I'm glad more women were inspired by Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor. The pasta retort was obviously wrong. I'd even throw an Atkins diet at Headey. But I think the Terminator fans are more serious about it than I. 

[Prophet Tenebrae]

I hadn't really thought about it when watching the show but I suppose that I see the point…

While it would be nice to see Sarah Connor as a more robust woman and the frail look of her is hardly congruent with the bad assery… it's not something that I'll be thinking about too much.

[Holiday]

While it would be nice to see Sarah Connor as a more robust woman and the frail look of her is hardly congruent with the bad assery… it's not something that I'll be thinking about too much.

Until we see her fire a shotgun or a Desert Eagle.  🙁

[cpbell0033944]

Sorry for my error WRT Robin Coleman. :-[

I agree that Headley is not emaciated; as I said, I think that stating this undermines the argument of the feminists who obviously have a particular love for all that the Connor character represents.  I'm also indebted to The Collector for his insider's view.  I must say, though, that it seems sad that the femuscular enthusiasm of a member of our little community has been blunted by experience to the point where his post, illuminating though it is, almost sounds anti-femuscle.  I mean NO disrespect, BTW; I'm just musing at how the facts of life go against our wishes, fantasies and passions. :'(

[TC2]

Yeah I know, I used to be in the same views as everyone else on this board.  But once I actually started getting into television production and learning how things work in the industry, my views HAD to change.  To keep them the same way I had them in the past would not be beneficial efficiency wise.

Now, that doesn't mean that femuscle is out of the picture, quite the contrary.  Once I have the funds to do my own productions and personal projects, I guarantee you that when I produce something and put it out for all to see it will contain a femuscular protagonist.  But for now, gotta keep it real and go with the flow.

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