[Holiday]

I see a possible flaw in this series' approach. The original films were high octane suspense. The Terminators were a high tech threat that relentlessly chased after the Connors. The urgency of time was what made films like that and series like '24' so successful. Sarah had little time to bond peacefully with her son. But if this new incarnation they've manipulated high tech to stay ahead of their pursuers. The sense of urgency goes down and we could face dramatic periods which may or may not be important. 

[The Saint]

One of the reviews that I read basically stated that she would be good as Connor without either the muscle or the acting, but, being without both she was unconvincing – much as you hav stated, top-notch acting can make us forgive physical shortcomings, but, when both are lacking, then it's a flop.  I can't see why they can't leave the character alone.  For almost everyone, Hamilton WAS Connor, so let her be for all time the image we think of. 8)

Oddly enough, Summer Glau's portrayal of a Terminatrix (ostensibly an earlier model than the T-X seen in Rise of the Machines) is more convincing than Headey's portrayal of Connor, although her character seems far more similar to Lt. Commander Data from Star Trek than the aforementioned T-X.

But to be fair, the show hasn't truly jumped the shark yet. The retcon wherein we discover that there are perhaps hundreds of Terminators and Resistance fighters in the current time can be explained away by positing that Reese's line from the original film — "It's just him… and me." came from the first Resistance fighter to come back, and that plans changed when the Resistance in 2029 discovered that Skynet had sent a few hundred Terminators through. The storyline changes from the films to the series are actually remarkably well-handled.

Where the show is going to well and truly jump the shark — and mark my words, the moment the writers pull this card, even my tolerance will be exceeded — will be when it's revealed that Summer Glau's Terminatrix has fallen in love with John. lol

[Holiday]

No to ROBOT SEX!  >:( And going the angle of Asimov or Matrix is not keeping with the themes!

[Vollar-Tile]

Oddly enough, Summer Glau's portrayal of a Terminatrix (ostensibly an earlier model than the T-X seen in Rise of the Machines) is more convincing than Headey's portrayal of Connor, although her character seems far more similar to Lt. Commander Data from Star Trek than the aforementioned T-X.

But to be fair, the show hasn't truly jumped the shark yet. The retcon wherein we discover that there are perhaps hundreds of Terminators and Resistance fighters in the current time can be explained away by positing that Reese's line from the original film — "It's just him… and me." came from the first Resistance fighter to come back, and that plans changed when the Resistance in 2029 discovered that Skynet had sent a few hundred Terminators through. The storyline changes from the films to the series are actually remarkably well-handled.

Where the show is going to well and truly jump the shark — and mark my words, the moment the writers pull this card, even my tolerance will be exceeded — will be when it's revealed that Summer Glau's Terminatrix has fallen in love with John. lol

Actually that wouldnt be too far out of line with the other 2 terminator movies, particularly the 3rd with how he seems to develop freedom of choice.

Of course, keeping in line with those movies, it'd probably be like moments before she's dramatically blown apart on the last episode, sacrificing herself or something.

[cpbell0033944]

I don't wish to seem rude, but this thread has evolved somewhat from my initial posting.  As I know little about the details of the plots, etc., I will now withdraw and leave the thread to those more knowledgeable than myself. 😉

[cpbell0033944]

No more responses?

Can I just link to this forum:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/new-rules-lifting-women/29634-hollywood-image-strong-woman.html

and seek your views?

[Holiday]

Looks like it's a strong subject in the fitness forums.

Well, if I can't get a woman who can believably tussle with a cyborg, I might as well settle for an animated woman who can. Like Deaunan Knute from "Appleseed".  ;D

[Seldom]

Re Summer Glau falling in love with John… (warning: T2 spoiler for the 1 person who hasn't seen it yet)

I posit that we've already seen a Terminator fall in love with John Connor, it was Ahnold in T2. That scene at the end where he comforts John before sacrificing himself, it's not romantic love but I think it's a clear sign that 1) the Terminator robots are smart enough to develop free will and 2) they are smart enough to love, even at their own peril (or maybe that's dumb enough, depending on your perspective!)

Possible objections: That Ahnold was programmed to self-destruct when his mission is accomplished. I concede this point, but argue that that doesn't mean he had to comfort John and Sarah about it. He has clearly grown fond of them.

Of course, I have long and loudly argue that the two greatest love scenes in the history of cinema are: the end of Terminator 2, and the Gorman/Vasquez sacrifice in Aliens.

[fasola]

Seldom, I don't think that Arnold was programmed to self-destruct, he was aware of the necesity of his destruction, but he quite puts it at the end, "I can't self termintae" if he was programmed to self-desatruct, he wouldn't need for them to destroy him.
And on the love matter, I See it as a better understanding of human behavior, because he is puzzled about why humans cry. He doesn't love John, he is programmed to protect and keep him safe, no matter what. And eventually he understand better human emotions. that's why he says "Now I know why you humans cry" when he is about to be terminated. The one that loves him is John who sees him as a patternal figure. there is where the love lies.

I won't argue that the Aliens scene is really emotional and is the final proof that Vasquez and Gorman really care for each other and that their continous bragging was just their adolescent way of showing love for one onether.

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