World Weightlifting Championships 20-29 Nov (Eurosport)

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  • #87531
    colt13
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    Thanks for the anwser. I guess I just expected her to do better.

    #87532
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    Some sum up and thoughts.

    WANG Mingjuan        317.676
    CHINSHANLO Zulfiya   307.878
    LI Xueying           314.045
    MANEZA Maiya         305.820
    AVDALYAN Nazik       313.392
    PODOBEDOVA Svetlana  329.693
    JANG Mi-ran          324.121

    According to Sinclair points, the best lifter of the games was Svetlana Podobedova. She was also the only one to make all three world records in these championships. Other of the top three were Jang and Wang respectively.

    She was really in top form, but this really wasn't a surprise since she was able to do world record already at junior age and performed really well in Asian championships – she also tried to break world records there with no luck.

    Looking at the medal tables it is hard to remember that Chinese had their National games – this event occurs every fourth year – this year, which is a bigger competition to them since there is quite a rivalry between the provinces. In some classes the winners were not present due to they put all the effort in their own competition so national team place was given to others.

    There is no getting away with the fact that they are number one in weightlifting at the moment. They seem to have old soviet-like training system where the gifted individuals are picked at a young age to different sport schools and trained hard. Some might think this is inhuman and enslaving system, but at least there is one point clear; it brings results.

    Despite all this, I've understood that Chinese women team head coach Ma Wenghui is known for her human approach to the athletes. Many of these now winning competitors would have kicked out of the team due to injuries in some other countries if they'd have as good replacements as Chinese have, but Ma has built were close team where everybody supports each others. The whole team trains together before the competition, goes to different kind of events together etc. Whether this is only the public image, who know.

    Kazakhstan was the second best country in these competitions and they have really improved since previous years. I don't know how much this is related with their new head coach Enver Türkileri  who is a former Bulgarian-Turkish coach who used to work with such lifting legends as Naim Süleymano?lu and Halil Mutlu.

    And the other thing is that many of the Kazakhstan lifters are originally from Russia but they have moved for a reason or another away from home country. According to some rumours it might be political issue but for a other hand, competition for national team is to tough that you can drop out if you have a bad year and they don't want to take you back.   

    Mikhail Koklyaev was according to some sources kicked from the team because he wanted to continue with his own coach but they tought that he should change to another one. There are many other cases but they don't seem to talk about those in the open – politics like in the old soviet days.

    Sometimes it's a money issue, but I don't believe that Kazakhstan pays more than the Russ does. Qatar was known for buying athletes a few years ago – and Turkish did the sama few times – but it doesn't seem so popular any more. Ironic thing in some cases was, that the athlete himself continued training and living in the same place. He just wore a different suit in the international platform.

    Russia didn't get a single total gold – only two from snatch gategories. Is this only a short period on unofortunate coincidences or something more, only time will tell. A bit surpisingly it seems that the ladies are keeping their old fame up.

    Nahla Ramadan made an international comeback, but she was in no shape. She was 20 kg heavier than before and still she couldn't lift as much. Her competition was over after snatch lifts for some reason.

    Liu Chunhong's performance was also a bit unexpected even though her little break and minor injuries were in public awareness, she was only a light shadow of her old stature. But she'll come back, I'm quite positive of that.

    Injuries are very common in this sport. Thus many of the top athletes were missing from the list or didn't perform as well as they ought to do. Steiner, Chigishev , Ilin, Aramnau, Alihossein some to mention.

    Most entertaining group personally mens 77 kg category where the competition was very tough and dramatic and individually probably Podobedova was most impressive.

    #87533
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    Thanks for the anwser. I guess I just expected her to do better.

    Had to check: she did eight kg better in European championships. Off course you are expected to do your best in seasons main event, but it just doesn't always go that way.

    #87534
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    CCTV has videos of all A-class lifts. Commentary is naturally in Chinese but the stream quality is quite good.

    48 Snatch
    48 Clean and Jerk
    53 Snatch
    58 Snatch
    58 Clean and Jerk
    63 Snatch
    63 Clean and Jerk
    69 Snatch
    69 Clean and Jerk
    75 Snatch
    75 Clean and Jerk
    75+ Snatch
    75+ Clean and Jerk

    #87535
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    Some spectator videos.

    Textbook technique

    World record

    Notice the frog stance at the start of the lift

    World record

    Junior world record

    #87536
    colt13
    Participant

    CCTV has videos of all A-class lifts. Commentary is naturally in Chinese but the stream quality is quite good.

    48 Snatch
    48 Clean and Jerk
    53 Snatch
    58 Snatch
    58 Clean and Jerk
    63 Snatch
    63 Clean and Jerk
    69 Snatch
    69 Clean and Jerk
    75 Snatch
    75 Clean and Jerk
    75+ Snatch
    75+ Clean and Jerk

    Thank you! This will keep me occupied for days.

    #87537
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    Although there have not been so long for wwc competition, the East Asian Games are on their way already. Naturally the best performances of the year have been seen, but the lifters from North Korea have shown very good posture. I don't know is it some kind of an political issue for Democratic People's Republic of Korea since you didn't see them in the world championships.

    Cao Lei add another achievement in her already Chinese Grand Slam merit (Olympic games, Chinese National games, world, Asian and Chinese gold) by winning the 75 kilo catogory.

    Maybe something more later.

    #87538
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    World records are like paper in this kind of competitions. In the first four weight classes in order to win those were needed to exceed and this climaxed in 63 kg group where the top three, Ouyang, Guan and Li Liying, bested the world records 12 times! The winning result 265 kg adds up to a 332.137 sinclair points. But even that wasn't the best performance in terms of points but this was topped by Wang's 220 kg in 48's with 336.003 points.

    China really dominates weightlifting in women: 13 out of 21 world records are set by Chinese, they won 4 out of 4 possible olympic golds previous year and if we can figure something out from this competition, the trend is quite likely to continue this year.

    Forgot to post this good analysis http://www.sportivnypress.com/documents/110.html

    Interesting that she says this 75 kilo lifter to be Li Xia whereas I thought she is Wang Ying. Well it's sometimes really pain in the ass trying to translate Chinese text.

    They haven't published anything from the Worlds so far.

    #87539
    cpbell0033944
    Participant

    Thanks Maito – I've been away for a time and I'm catching-up.

    #87540
    Trash Boat
    Participant

    Nice to see you are back.

    Here's Chinshanlo Zulfiya's wr tying last attempt. Look at the power as she gets up from the squat position!

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