[Ashlee]

enjoy
http://www.hcomicbook.com/japan-comic/11038/11038-7.html

[Robert McNay]

The fighting sequences were cool, even the “ahem” intimate panels, but I could have done without the kinky torture stuff. Gross. :S

[Ashlee]

sorry I could not get that far ,very sorry if it offended you

[Robert McNay]

Ashlee wrote:

sorry I could not get that far ,very sorry if it offended you

I’m sorry Ashlee, I wasn’t addressing it or blaming you. It was just a comment on the story, itself. I usually try to avoid that sort of manga and manga-inspired art. In the case of this, after the second page of it, I started to “next” my way through it quicker. :blush:

I just don’t get how doing something that demeaning to someone else is a turn on. I get S&M, because both are willing participants and deriving their own pleasure from it, but not that sort of stuff. :dry: :huh:

[Seldom]

CptMatt wrote:

I just don’t get how doing something that demeaning to someone else is a turn on. I get S&M, because both are willing participants and deriving their own pleasure from it, but not that sort of stuff. :dry: :huh:

Pleasure derived from the idea of power and control and pain, either giving or receiving. The erotic imagination is vast and varied.

You’ve made the mistake of attributing the turn-on to the act itself, rather than the participants or the reader. It is not that torture is a turn-on. That would be attributing erotic attributes to the torture. It is that the fantasy of torture can be a turn-on to the reader. It is an attribute of the reader’s erotic imagination, not the act itself.

This is an important distinction to make. When you think that eroticism is inherent in the imaginary act rather than the participants, you are dangerously close to then moving from that to a judgment on those who find it erotic. Those with torture fantasies then become weird, perverted, the other, and must be punished and fixed.

A better phrasing is that the torture scene is not erotic to you. The implied question in your phrasing was “How can imaginary nonconsensual torture be erotic?” The answer, of course, is that to you it cannot be erotic.

[Robert McNay]

Seldom wrote:

CptMatt wrote:

I just don’t get how doing something that demeaning to someone else is a turn on. I get S&M, because both are willing participants and deriving their own pleasure from it, but not that sort of stuff. :dry: :huh:

Pleasure derived from the idea of power and control and pain, either giving or receiving. The erotic imagination is vast and varied.

You’ve made the mistake of attributing the turn-on to the act itself, rather than the participants or the reader. It is not that torture is a turn-on. That would be attributing erotic attributes to the torture. It is that the fantasy of torture can be a turn-on to the reader. It is an attribute of the reader’s erotic imagination, not the act itself.

This is an important distinction to make. When you think that eroticism is inherent in the imaginary act rather than the participants, you are dangerously close to then moving from that to a judgment on those who find it erotic. Those with torture fantasies then become weird, perverted, the other, and must be punished and fixed.

A better phrasing is that the torture scene is not erotic to you. The implied question in your phrasing was “How can imaginary nonconsensual torture be erotic?” The answer, of course, is that to you it cannot be erotic.

Either way, I suspect those that do, probably tortured small animals as kids.

[Ashlee]

I’m sorry its part of the culture, Yuri does have alot of dominating S&M, of females in his stories I should of realizied and put a warnning.

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