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Oh, I agree. But I can also think of "Plan 9 From Outer Space". Here is the youtube if you dare to see for yourself.  😛

Doh. I guess forgot to actually add the Plan 9 ylutube link. Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-kCC8WUKYk

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This is probabaly way out of place in this thread, but after reading her posts, and those of her bodybuilding friends, I see an incredible mental similarity between her bodybuilding pitfalls, and what a lot of artists, including myself go through from time to time. It's almost as if the only thing different is the outlet this "muse", for lack of a better way to describe it, is expressed.

Hopefully others who have gone through what she is going through can make it clear that she is not alone and help her through it.

The one positive that is sure to come of this is that younger bodybuilders will read her words and and learn from them. When they face similar problems they will have her experience to help guide and comfort them.

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I can think of some cults that were better than that.
Mystery Science Theater 3000
Futurama
Homestar Runner
South Park
Las Lindas
Batman…

Oh, I agree. But I can also think of "Plan 9 From Outer Space". Here is the youtube if you dare to see for yourself.  😛

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Now I have another reason to hate disney,
talk about being cheap!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL6FYxIuJlA&NR=1

Holly Cow! I've watched tones of animation and I never noticed the templates until just now.  😮

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Boy, that was awful, but in a funny, B-Movie kind of way that will probably endow it with a cult following. ;D

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Writing is a lot of hard work. To do it well is like taking on a full time job. I am pretty committed to an existing sci-fi story right now. Sorry, but those who visit here will be disappointed. No fem muscle will be in it.

It's been my experience that fantasy can easily lead to undisciplined and poor story. As a result it's easier to craft a story idea first and then make the characters conform to the story. Most people create characters first and then try and craft a story around the character. (All my fbb work has been in that category and has suffered as a result.) What I gave in my past example was an idea. The goal of freedom that get's transformed into a test of love. This idea does not requite a character to be female, or muscular, or even human. It could be done without anyone ever caressing muscles, breasts or any other part of the anatomy. Given the intended audience it's a wise first step to understand that I would not hesitate to destroy the lead character, and any other characters if I feel that the story works better that way. I would edit personality traits on the go, possibly gutting any appeal they originally had. I would create and edit background material to suit the story.

I know how people can fall in love with their characters. I handed this  off to you because it's your idea. It's your baby. If I take this on, chances on I'd kill it for you, and that wouldn't be cool.

Having said that, I might be able to knock out a very rough story based on the previously stated idea. It would be done only when I have time and energy to take it on. I won't draw it. That would take way too long and I know I don't have the time for it. Perhaps it could be more of a lesson on story writing so others can gain some insight on the parts of this art that make story more then a collection of fantasy scenes.

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Agreed. I'll hand this of to you. It's your idea and the details should be yours to create. Maybe Jeb will even draw it when it's all done.

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It's a little bit better. But I think I can give you something that you can build on if you are so inclined.

Your muscle girl is a tool and a slave of war and violence. So far she is a cardboard cutout. Here is what I propose.

All the while she is being controlled as an instrument of war, she can see and feel all of her actions but is totally powerless to stop. "No", is not a word she can utter. For all of the elapsed time, she desperately wants to  be free. She resents bitterly all her power for it has gained her nothing but a life of servitude to one master after another. Each one a psycho of one stripe of another.

A simple bit of symbolism could be summed up with a short scene of her witnessing a puppet on a string doing an act, and her sympathy going out to that little bit of wood and cloth and a burning rage at the puppet master. The scene could be totally innocent for all who see it, except her because she is living that puppets life.

At some point that ring falls into what the gods would consider the wrong hands. A mortal. For a brief time she is allowed to exists without being ordered about. This could be as simple an an accident because the mortal doesn't know what he or she posses and how to use it, or it could be deliberate. Maybe beacuse he or she feels sorry for her. For her, this is the first time she has experienced an act of kindness. It overpowering.

And then the gods catch up with her and her new mortal master. The powerful weapon in the hands of a mortal is totally unacceptable. She will be made to serve the gods or else.

(Let me pause here for a moment. We could go straight to a fight where she uses her brief bit of freedom to save this mortal and end it here with either a victory or a loss, but this would be a pretty weak story if we went there. To have a powerful story she needs to be boxed into a corner. Not necessarily physically, but mentally. To make this story strong she needs to be put into a moral dilemma. In short she needs to have 2 stark choices placed before her. One choice gives her what she wanted form the story start, and it's easy to obtain. We give her freedom at little cost. The other choice should give her a total disaster. Perhaps she not only becomes a slave again, but she also must suffer a permanent state of hell where her soul burns in agony as a punishment the gods will meet out to her. The final conflict could be as simple as what I propose)

To be free she must kill the bearer of the ring. If she can do this she will be free. Not only that, she will also be the most powerful of all the gods. It looks like a win win for her.

But the mortal currently wears the ring. He or she can not, or will not control her, so the killing will be supremely easy. But this is the only person in all of creation who has ever shown her kindness. The only person who has trusted her. The only one to see past the power to love what lies beneath all the muscle. To do this she will be killing that trust, and the only thing that ever loved her.

The other option is to fight the gods, knowing that eventually her master will die, and she will be at their mercy, only this time she will suffer as she has never suffered before.

Now she must choose.

From here we have our climatic scene. She will be rewarded or punished according to poetic justice. If she chooses well, she wins her most important goal, (not necessarily freedom) She'll win that inner mental state of being morally right. It might translate into a physical victory for her or it might not. All depends on how it's handled. If she chooses wrong she get's her just rewards. Perhaps she wins her freedom, but suffers a mental hell. Perhaps she actually looses all, including physically. In the end she will demonstrate if she deserves to win or if she deserves to loose.

Anyway, that's a very rough idea of what could happen. The key here is to elaborate on the muscle girl, create a goal that she must strive for. Smack her down a few times, and ultimately force her into a moral choice.

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I wish we can have a "Pai Pai" story a nerd get  his wish for a Big muscley protector and  spend most of the time feeling her muscles and watching her do feats of strength.
Like a a ring , thats contain a Powerful female creation , and whoever commands the ring would summon this Being to there bidding , his would be just feeling her body and spending quality time with her.

You'll need more then that to make a readable story. That could be a scene, or theme, but like you said you need some kind of conflict to get it going. The challenge for a minimal or non dominating story would be what form a conflict would arise and how it's resolved.

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I'm guessing he brought it up because it was just released on DVD.

That is correct.

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