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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPq7BgXOYuc

No idea who she is, but she’s moving some heavy weight there and for reps.

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Yes. A guy and his snooty model brunette girlfriend visit the farm where Lisa is a farmhand and the girl smarts off to Lisa who proceeds to tear the skinny girl apart as the boyfriend very much enjoys it and then takes a liking to Lisa as she finishes off the old skinny girldfriend. I’d love that skit.

Lisa is a great looking woman, CP. Agree. I’d let the skinny girl have the first shot to Lisa abs and hurt her arm. Be a cool skit. The guy would convert to Lisa after she was done throwning the weak girl 🙂 around the farm. 🙂

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The big problem with fbbs now is there really is nothing to aspire to other than the underground stuff. That has dropped interest. So has some of the gorls seeing other girls have awful side effects from roids. Roids and women in all of our contries were not much of an issue until the 80s’ and more early 90’s. Those were your guinea pigs for fbbs. There were no roids in 60’s and70’s fbbs. Look at them. Stick figures.

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I’m sorry. I should have made that bigger, stronger, and more athletic remark to the time I was growing up. Title IX was passed in the US ad things changed. Older guys here know what that is. Women play much more sports and lift much more now than when I was a kid. The world bench press record was barely 200 in the late 70’s for women? Do I need to add more? There are thousands of women who can do that now…or maybe 1,000…..my guess is more.

You guys in Canada are a bit moreliberal, but much like England….the most similar to the US in cultural behavior. The laws and politics vary some….not drastically. Yes, roids are easier to get up in Canada….now. Not an issue 12 years back. The law was not enforced here and was not as harsh. If you follow baseball, then you know what that did to roid laws here.

Don’t know on the people or gender stuff. It has come a long ways here, but it still won’t disappear anytime soon. Men are…on average….bigger and stronger than women. That is a fact. They also behave differently. It is as genetic as it is society giving you gender roles. They’ve done studies on that. Young boys act differently than young girls. Gay kids have been shown to be different at a very young age. It is not society stereotyping the entire thing, though that probably plays a role as well.

It is much better now….I’m 45….than it was when I was born…and even worse for the guy who was 65…there are a few here. Ask them. No such thing as fbbs or female combat…except as kind of a joke…..other than real underground. It was condiered porn in the 50’s in some parts of the US if you had wrestling vids. Amazing, isn’t it?

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Yes. I wanted to see more boxing and her lift that weight. I guess that is why they call these clips “teasers.” 🙁

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I read it twice just to make sure I understood your points. I agree with most, but disagree with some. First, you are giving the media too much credit. Who the hell listens to the media? Not me. They told you cig smoke was good for you years back, drugs that caused cancer were good for you, and still do all of that. They are just conveyers of information and information in the US is driven by CORPORATE INTERESTS and lobbyists in Washington who look out for them and pay pols money to defend their interests. That is how America’s capitalistic economy and political sysyem work. Right? The media sure is not keeping anyone thin. The obesity rate is up 53% iin FIFTEEN years…in what was already the fattest first world country in the world. It is going up in Europe too. Women and men are not sitting on the couch and listening to the media to stay thin. Just look at the incrwasing fats rates…especially amongst KIDS. Nuff said on that.

On the Hollywood thing….that is mainly roids in the US. They want to get away from it. The big miss many here make on roids is that it is a CRIME to have them in your posession. A felony and the penalties are getting stiffer. You can say that we should be free to take whatever we want. I get that and support it. We are free to take cocaine and many other illegal drugs. My point is…it is a major crime if you are caught…especially with a large amount and small amounts are not what bobybuilders take. They often are the dealers since it cuts their cost if they can sell some at a premium at the gym. My point is obvious….yes they are free to do it…and the police are free the throw them in jail. That was the point of my Canada comment. They have laws there….much less strict…and much less enorced. Huge reason to bodybuild there….and Toronto is now like LA and muscle beach used to be.

As far as Hollywood…it has been rejected by the males and females you mention for overuse of roids. Those are your consumers. It is a felony to use them. Why would Hollyood producers put an fbb in a movie…so the cops can visit the set. They are cracking down on roids big time. You see it at the gyms and I’m in the biggest market and visit the biggest gyms in the US. It has changed alot. Even the men are smaller. Less use, though there is some. You just need to be real careful. Is that worth it?

As far as guys and girls teasing you….I’ve had a few people bust me and nobody ever said a word. I was working hard then and again recently ( no roids), so they may have thought it was partly fitness interest, though some saw the fighting stuff too. Even my ex girl who was gorgeous. No biggie ….it is a fetish. I generally don’t get people saying much of anything to me. They just don’t. I look and smaller men look the other way. However, I do not advertise it. I have gone on many femuscle sites at work which they cetainly knew over years and not one person ever said a word to my face or was it notable to me when we hung out. Topic never came up…even real drunk.

I had some interesting experiences with muscle women….most women negative…and mixed with me. I could share that another time. I don’t go around and tell people I like strong women, but if I see one I check her out. Has happened many times out with other people…much less so recently At bars, in stores, and random sightings. The gym was the best spot of course. Many world classers there.

The big difference here is that roids are now taboo. Plain and simple. Not w/everyone, but with the unusing public , media, and law enforcement. Look at Barry Bonds and Clemens..two of the great US athletes ever are now laughing stock cheaters in the US. That says it all. Thier popularity is 50 times the biggest ever bodybuilder.

As far as gender sterootypes…they are changing…just slowly.There is an enormous difference between now at age 45 and when I was growing up. It happens slowly though.

The good news in all of this..is that girls on average are bigger, stronger, and more athletic than the early 90’s. Huge difference. If fbbing was still around in the same exact manner…it would be sick what we see now. Much better than what we got then.

We’d be going bonkers here if the young girls of today tried fbbing in the same volume and took some “gear” as they did in those days. The sport would be huge and the women would be better than ever. Trust me…I’ve ben a fan and very active around this for a long time. Now…if you guys are overseas….it seems to be different in some countries. This used to be the place and now it is changing. Girls do play other sports at previously unseen levels here…even lifting records are falling.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBSqYXSMhGc

Same clip at youtube.

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http://www.amg-lite.com/aleesha_young

New segment of the mighty Aleesha Young putting on the gloves and throwing some punches is included in her latest video teaser posted at amg. She’s not at the top with Gina Davis or Debrah Halye, but she looks like she has a decent uppcut and with that arms size…good night. 🙂

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We have not had the WSW in several years. We still have the WSM on all the time…when they hve nothing better to put on….which is often. It also has a limited TV upside. Lets face it. Same with weightlifting and powerlifting. You see it on some world sports highlight shows, but that is it.

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Interesting discussion. I’m not saying men do not like fit women. They do like breasts in most cases. That is one thing that was always negative on fbbs here..the lack of breast size….thus the breast implants we now see all over the US and worldwide. That was part of the negative male reaction along with what Lingster said about the male hormone look. Mix those 2 together and you saw the sport disappear.

I’m pretty strong in my opinion. One thing Lingster did not address….is what happened to male bodybuilding? That was popular and died as well. We all knew Loe and Arnie were roids, but people loved the freaky look. Nowadays….not one famous muscle guy in the US. Think about that. There used to be 5 to 10. There are now none. There are no male bodybuilding shows on TV. It was a novelty and people associated it with roids. Mix in the fact that dieting down is bad for you and the fact that it really is not a sport of any kind and you have the collapse.

Has strongman or woman gone down? I would say no. About the same. That is a competition. Are they on roids…of course.

The fact is the gear is harder to get in the US and it comes with the risk of being jailed…is also an issue…even for women who are fine with it being underground. I imagine that is why Toronto is so popular for fbbs. What is closest to the US and has the best climate with easier access to drugs? Toronto. You can be a US citizen and go back and forth at will.

There are alot of reasons for it. I do not think that if your brought back Cory Everson and sold the Ms Olympia as it was….it would work now. Even if a decent subset of the men do like it..they can access it now on the net or just watching other female sports. They won’t watch it on TV. Trust me….the spot is never coming back and neither is fitness. The Hollywood roles….that might come back.

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