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So Johanna's a Pro at long, long last?

Athena also a Pro?  Good job, too. 8) 😉

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I'm still waiting for the PM… 😉

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And here we go…

Don't worry, I won't let it go too far.  Perhaps someone could respond via PM.  I'm just genuinely curious, because Reagan was regarded here as a bit of a joke.

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What up with you UK people?  The average height for a women int he USA is 5 4.  How you get taller than us?

I think it was considered to be 5'4" here until fairly recently.  Our diet is still typically not as bad as the US, and we halso have a lot of Danish/Viking/Germanic ancestry which helps height-wise.

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I suppose I'd better outline my ideal! 😉

Height:  Not important, though tall is nice.
Hair:  As long as she has some and it isn't mauve I'm not bothered.
Nice breasts, but I'm not defining cup sizes!
Intelligence is a must.
Biceps in the range 14-16 inches, as any larger will probably bring with it square jaw, funny voice, etc.  Calves similar, thighs large but defined.
Able to bench 250 pounds and leg-press 900 pounds.
Working/middle class.
Proud of her physique, but not too showy.
Dress sense?  Casual when appropriate, smart when appropriate, bikini when appropriate! ;D
Occasional demos of strength in public would be great.
Age: similar to me, i.e. mid-late twenties or perhaps early thirties.
Why she became buff?  I suppose because she wanted to rather than being cadjoled into doing it.  She must enjoy the feeling of being strong and independent, and also be open enough for me to make her feel that it makes her sexy.

Unusually for me, it seems I'm not fussy!

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Apparently you don't realize that any mocking or satire of St. Ronnie is completely unacceptable and ought to be punishable by the death penalty for treason, at the very least.

I've never heard a convincing explanation from any American as to why Reagan was so brilliant.  Yes, he told the Soviet Union and it's fellow communist states to tear-down the Berlin Wall, but, if we're exchanging speeches, shouldn't Obama be trumpteted as loudly?  I'd love to know why I'm supposed to think anything other than him being Thatcher's lapdog and a likeable if rather "vague" old man at the time of his Presidency.

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And I think something similar but with the roles changed happens with male underwear. I'm tired of seing ripped guyin male underwear. That publicity won't make me buya new pair of undies never, but my girlfriend might buy one for the atraction she feels for the model in the ad.

I've never understood this one either. ::)

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In the UK, average height is considered to be 5'5".  Above 5'7"-8" is tall, above 5'11" is very tall.

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Well worth a look, though I really can't tell if it's all that serious or not. Essentially a video of a young woman who decides to hit the gym. But like I said, well worth a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhTNROIWMAU

Yes, I saw this the other day.  I'm so annoyed by the comment of one idiot who says that she almost changes sex by the end of the video. WTF?! ??? >:(

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Well I agree that it is indeed time to turn the heat down on this topic, as someone said above. It's ok that we can disagree on this issue. You know where I stand and why, and I know where those of you have posted stand- and thats fine.

*Just a couple of quick items.
on the "reputation" claims. I think it would be incredibly stupid for any BB'er to admit to taking steroids for obvious image and endorsement reasons. That being said, I dont know why JD would claim to be natural if shes not; i could offer theries but it would be pure speculation and I am not going to beat a now dead horse.

And to cbpell, I admit that I am not a qualified biologist by any means but if you are, even you must admit that test. production is the single greatest factor for muscle growth. My evidence on female test. was based on legitimate medical journals found threw a scholarly archive engine.

Also, there was someone who said that they fail to see how male bb's are an authority. I personally think they credible, but I did insist in early posts that acctual medical science evidence certaintly trump theirs.

And finally there was a comment about competeing in drug "tested" events. IFBB and NPC testing is frankly a joke, it is raveged with inconsistencies and hypocricy. There are hundreds of articles on this topic on the web.

Ladies and Gentlemen, lets get back to discussing JD's lucious biceps and not if they are natural.

I never said that testosterone levels were unimportant, just that they weren't the only factor.  I would agree that it's very rare for a woman to build big muscles without some help; my argument was with your assertion thatthis somehow proved Johanna to be a liar.  I would also agree with you about the drug-testing at some events; however, with the number of tested events she's done, she would have been very lucky to get through clean each time had she been juicing.

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