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Right, I've been through the topic again.

– Sarah Parker obviously uses weights, but is too scrawny for my taste, though she does belong here.She's also horsefaced, but never mind.

– Knightley is lean with a tiny amount of muscle.

– Pam Anderson has decent biceps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO4VuzWAX0Q.

– I've sat through the entire Titanic video, and I can say that Dion was lean but not muscled (see phenom's point about Trachtenberg).

– Amy Motta's photoshoot shows that different poses can emphasise muscle or hide it; in some shots she looks buff, in some, muscle-less.  She is definitely buff, though.

– Maria Ford may have starred in crummy films, but she's really buff http://www.angelfire.com/film/mariaford/magazines.html.

– Madonna and Tompkinson have the same problem as Parker; they're ectomorphs who have gone to the gym and pumped iron but who don't eat enough to have a proper buff physique, hence their rope-like biceps and scrawny, unsexy appearance.

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Sorry phenoms; in trying to keep my response to ScottG's posting concise, I was unclear.  My agreement was with his central point that, as you showed with the Trachtenberg photo, lean isn't always muscular.  I'm not saying that any of the wome in this thread shouldn't be here (I'll look back through it and post again after I've done so), though I find Tompkinson's arms off-putting (biceps should be full and rounded, not like bits of rope under the skin).  I'm also a bit surprised at your insistence that she is obviously lying about not liking her physique – are you a psychiatrist?

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Alright, I don't usually answer these, but I'll bite on this one. 😉

I'm a 30-something year old man from Quebec (Canada). A health nut and a gym rat, I'm a full time corporate monkey in a major North American financial institution and a part-time personnal trainer. I would very much like to make that "full-time", but it's unfortunately very hard to make a decent living as one as most people still consider physical training a hobbie and are often unwilling to pay for a trainer's services. [/end mini-rant]

I was married for 7 years, got a divorce about two years ago and am now enjoying life with a wonderful woman. A little younger than me, she's very much into fitness and is slowly leaning toward bodybuilding.

What else…? Hum… I'm a certified big kid: a movie fan, who as been collecting comics for years and who still watches kid's shows on those saturday mornings when I'm not in the gym. I've read the LotR a bazillion time, love what Peter Jackson did with the movies and I still cry like a baby when I watch any of them. What can I say? I'm sensitive. 😀

Another lucky guy who shares his life with a buff lady! *Glowers at Cashews in jealousy* ;D 😉

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You guys can't carry 120 pounds? :-

Well, I can't, but that's caused by my disability, so…

She's grimacing as she walks to the door with him!

Not grimacing – working fairly hard, yes, but her arms aren't shaking.

It's television–just because we hear foley work of hard footsteps doesn't mean she's wearing high heels. Or any kind of hard heel.

Alright, scrub the heels comment – I still think the way she catches him shows that it's not hard for her.

I'm not trying to ruin the reverie. Carry on. 😀

Too late, I'm afraid that's exactly what you've done.

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Be still my screaming trousers. ;D

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I think I have to agree a little more with Grandmaster on this one.  Pretty soon we won't be able to list anyone else on this thread because they will all have been named and the only ones that won't have been named will be because they are obese.  Several pics show what would appear to be muscle but could very well simply be an arm or leg pressed up against something.  Other pics are undoubtedly muscle but many of them are just illusions and wishful thinking by an optimistic eye.  I have never once thought of Pamela Anderson as muscular.  Is she shapely, yes, did she make men drool, yes, but I have never once seen a bicep of any discernable size on her arm.

As for the figure competitors you brought up, my only question is this, "Did they win?"  I seriously doubt they won, because any picture I have ever seen of a winning figure competitor shows very defined (not neccessarily large) muscle.  I have yet to see that definition on almost any "celebrity" that wasn't an athlete "Layla Ali".

To say that Christina Applegate or Jean Louisa Kelly (Yes, Dear) are muscular is IMHO reaching pretty far out there and therefore a loose interpretation of the term.

Linda Hamilton was not large but very defined so muscular works, Hillary Swank was very defined and again not large so muscular also works.

I agree.  Muscular is not the same as lean.

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The mind is a wonderful playground…

…and we are but children, fantasising.

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Super lame trailer for lame b-movie http://youtube.com/watch?v=blqiHiS-Jv4

Ye gods, that was appalling! 😮 ::) ;D

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Hmm, on a side note, one of the hypothesises for the Greek stories about the Amazons does come from the women of Sparta, who were renowned as the ultimate tough girls.  If a Spartan man couldn't subdue one in a fight, she wouldn't have anything to do with him.

Talk about hard to get women.

Probably there's a nugget of truth to it, but by all accounts there were multiple "Amazon" tribes located throughtout Asia Minor and around the Black Sea – the Greeks seeing a matriarchal society or even one that simply reckoned lineage and inherited power through the female line (i.e. not a man's son, but his sister's son became the next chief) as amazonian.

I must confess all that Greek mythology goes over my head, but I've always felt that there must have been warrior women somewhere around there to prompt the writings of the Greek scholars.  Oh to have a time machine and pay them a visit – tribes of heroic warrior buff girls. 😮 8)

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Looks to me as if the Viking Queen has gotten back up to her yrs past Gunsite-era level of Uberbuffedness.  😮  ;D  8)

According to Andy's page, those guns are 17inches in diameter. 😮 8)

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