[Robert McNay]

Oh man, that's a classic 'Vette. Why does she want to do that?  😉  ;D

[Robert McNay]

Don't you hate it when that happens?  ::)

[Robert McNay]

She's just waaaaay too cute to be real. That's gotta be CGI.  😀  ;D

[Robert McNay]

Woo-hoo Rachel! Hot damn, that is great. It is absolutely awesome to see one of the FBB pioneers still looking so fantastic. Was, and still is, one of the greats.  ;D

[Robert McNay]

A army Lance Corporal takes over representing Britain in the Miss World because the previous winner was disqualified for a bar fight.

Do they have trailer parks in England?

[Robert McNay]

Wow! And darn nice looking to boot.  😮  ;D

[Robert McNay]

I would say that this website glorifies and fetishizes Female Bodybuilders ( Thank God!)  …this is reality. To get all " up in my face" about ..every god damn comment I make so that you can feel safe and secure knowing that you're in control…is a Debbie Downer. This is the impression you have given me and as far as I can tell you haven't written anything so far to change my mind on that fact.

Saying you're not a Debbie Downer… is not a fact, it's  you're own personal opinion; an opinion, of which, I do not share with you.

Actually, what I think is going on is you have a problem with contrary points of view. You seem to think they are some sort of personal attack. You seem to think if someone disagrees with you, they are trying to "control" the discussion.

Not everyone on this website "fetishizes" female bodybuilders. Some of us realize that they ARE women and not just a disembodied collection muscles that only exists from just above the ankles to the neck, to be felt squeezed or beat up by. We don't stick Angelina Jolie's head on a male BBers body then photoshop a bikini on it.

Some of us also write (I've posted 3 stories myself) about those impossible women that you seem to think are possible, but we also realize that they are no more possible than Wonder Woman, She Hulk or Power Girl.

Its a fun fantasy but reality is where we live. Reality is Alina Popa, Rebekah Kresila, Tina Lockwood and Tazzie Colomb, and that's plenty of reality for me.

And since your style of discussion seems to rely on a version of "whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you", I'm joining cpbell.

[Robert McNay]

…yeah so what's your damn point…besides  turning this conversation in your direction

My point is that your post about this sudden evolution creating superhuman people is a fantasy and impossible. A pipe dream. "Reality is subjective" is a leftover of Timothy Leary and "tune in, turn on, drop out".

I wasn't being a Debbie Downer, I was being factual. Apparently reality down't play into your line of thinking.

[Robert McNay]

Well I suspect  you're not a scientist … then it's just your opinion
which is exactly what this thread is about.

So YES …Reality is subjective…and perception is relative . That is a widely shared opinion with a variety different people .

My opinion, regarding your comment, is that you're looking for something to disagree with.
So baby be my guest, disagree with anything you want. If that's what you need to feel in control..then
GO FOR IT.

You don't need to be a scientist, all you need is to be well read. Articles on genetics are pretty easy to find in periodicals like Scientific American, Journal of the Americam Medical Association, Nature, even Wired. The PBS series NOVA has done multiple shows on it.

This is not subjective, it is quantifiable and repeatable. Its not theory, its measured and observed.

[Robert McNay]

The best interchange I've ever heard about the ramifications of genetic tinkering and mutation was from a scifi movie. Blade Runner. It comes near the end of the film.

Roy: "I want more life f****r"
Tyrell: "Ahhh, the facts of life… To make an alteration in the evolvement of an organic life system is fatal. A coding sequence cannot be revised once it's been established."
Roy: "Why not?"
Tyrell: "Because by the second day of incubation, any cells that have undergone reversion mutations give rise to revertant colonies like rats leaving a sinking ship, then the ship sinks."
Roy: "What about EMS recombination?"
Tyrell: "We've already tried it. Ethyl methane sulfonate is an alkalating agent and a potent mutagen. It created a virus so lethal the subject was dead before he left the table."
Roy: "Then, a repressive protein that blocks the operating cells…"
Tyrell: "Wouldn't obstruct replication but it does gives rise to an error replication so that the newly formed DNA strand carries a mutation and you've got a virus again."
Tyrell: "But, uh, this… all of this is academic. You were made as well as we could make you."

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