[Fett]

Steve Irwin was lucky to have a career that was enjoyable to him.  But for him to take unnecessary risks with wildlife was irresponsible and stupid.  Some will suggest that Irwin left enough money that his kids won't want, but firstly that might not be the case, and secondly it's not solely about the money. 

Fett suggests that stingrays aren't normally dangerous.  Let me share with you one jewel of wisdom plucked from my rural upbringing – nearly every wild animal is potentially dangerous.  (This is especially true in places like the Americas and Australia, where much of the landscape remains "untamed".)  I know urbanites and suburbanites often don't really grasp this, but it's the truth.  If you corner a wild animal, or if you merely make it feel that it's about to be cornered, it's very likely that it will attack you. 

The problem I have, is that most people assume they know more about the dangers of wildlife than Steve Irwin, a man who was a foremost expert in that subject. It kinda aggravates me when people say, "He was stupid, he kept taking all these unneccessary risks" when, this man DID know what he was doing.

Stingrays, generally, do not cause fatalities in humans. Yes, there is a risk, but there's also a risk with the diving equipment he was using. It was not like he was wrestling Jaws.

Again, you talk about stingrays like you know more of the risks involved in Irwin, who always talked very intelligently and passionately about the stunts he pulled, implying consideration on his part in what he's doing and how he's doing it.

Steve Irwin should have put his family first and not his fun.  Also, I completely fail to understand the attachment some people feel for a celebrity whom they've never met.  This whole idea of emotional attachment to remote strangers and the personal need to make "a statement" by selling some art on eBay is astonishing to me.  Get a grip.

You could say the same things about the emotional attachment people have for those inside two large towers that fell in New York. Lots of people never met them.

It's not for you to judge what people can and can't be emotionally attached to.

Also, I have to ask, did you not read what I post? You don't have to like Irwin, you can hate the guy, that's fair. I don't particularly have strong feelings about the man one way or another, but I did have a level of respect for him. This thread, is obviously intended to pay homage to his memory, and you popping in and saying "Get a grip" and passing judgment on the man is particularly shitty.

You own this damned forum. You could make another thread or front page post to say what the hell you like. But this thread is obviously a place to pay respects in this community. Passing remarks that are condescending and trivialising are inappapropriate. You should know this, and you wouldn't tolerate it in a thread you started.

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I went to the John Byrne website to read what comments could make someone post that ebay comment.

John Byrne, is a big fucking piece of shit. He just goes on and on, relentlessly, from the day Irwin's death was announced, that Irwin was "an asshole". Then, later on saying, he should be skinned alive and thrown into the deepest, darkest pits of Africa, all the time using the incident with Irwin's baby and croc as justification, because he feels he knows more about the danger of crocodiles than a man who spent his entire life, with experience from generations before him, existing with them.

Byrne can think, and he can say, Irwin is an asshole. But to call Irwin and asshole, and worse, on the day of his death, in a thread meant to honour his memory, and to not let up but get more and more offensive as the thread continues, shows him to be a total piece of shit, incapable of understanding that anything could exist beyond his sphere of knowledge.

It is a shame that Steve Irwin passed away so quickly. He was, from all sources that I could tell, a genuinely wonderful man.

A lot of people had a real problem when he brought his infant son into a playpen with a live crocodile in front of spectators. Mainly because of two things – firstly, the pictures shown of the incident crop out the half dozen crocodile handlers and attendants present, are unable to depict that the croc had been feed several times that very day and was the oldest and slowest croc around, and are often shown depicting, through perspective, a much closer relationship between Irwin and the croc than actually happened (not least the angles that make it look like Irwin is taunting the croc with his child – on a side note, you have to wonder that if Irwin is an asshole for doing it, what the hell the people watching right there are). The second thing people forget is that, to Irwin, crocs were a very normal part of life for him and his family. Because all we know of crocs is the killers of the world and what we've read in biology books – since none of us have ever actually experienced the croc as anything other than a predator, we are incapable, a lot of the time, of comprehending how much knowledge this man had on crocs and their behaviour. I remember seeing him comment on a reality tv show where one of the tasks was to swim away from a croc, and he pointed out how through camera angles there was no danger, that there would've been attendants of all kinds, and that the type of croc (he could tell by looking) was not fierce towards humans. The guy knew his business.

Which is kind of ironic he dies from the stingray, something that's happened less than 20 times in recorded history. To him, there was no danger from the stingray. And he'd know.

Shame, the man really was capable of expressing the passion and love for wildlife (and life in general) and instilling it in others.

[Fett]

I don't see anything objectionable. Changing the names of sections and merging sections together without limiting the content available is totally fine with me, gots no problems with the streamlinin'. 🙂

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From what I've read, there have been studies where men have been asked to choose between two waist/hip pictures of which is more attractive to them – one waist/hip is slender but the ratio between waist/hip is very small, while the other is of a heavier woman, but the waist/hip ratio is much larger, and the latter was the favoured.

Apparantly, it's not so much 'where' the hips should be (though I believe, the hips should be in the armpits, with the shoulders out if you want a more muscular/physique look) but that the hips and waist should have a nice, healthy difference between the two.

I'm not sure if I've even answered your question. It's possible I answered another question no one asked. I do that some times. 🙂

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*bows*

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Amanda Conner, I think. And I agree.

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I must concur, I'm charmed by her cute, befuddled, confoozled expression on her face.  Very nice.

Confoozled is my new favourite word.

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;D ;D ;D ;D

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I don't have to take this!

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Well… yeah… yeah I do.  :-*

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Your best pic! ^__^

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