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  • in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73318
    jdfan
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    Yes indeed. She's been competing in tested events every year for the last 12 years – in addition to the occasional untested competition. Now I know drug tests can be beaten (look at Marion Jones et al) so in itself that doesn't prove anything. But again, why would she stake her reputation on being natural then risk her reputation every year when she could easily just compete in untested events and/or just not mention drugs like everyone else. It doesn't add up.

    in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73315
    jdfan
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    Interesting comments guys. I'd like to come back on a couple of GreyFox's points:

    On the idea of us guys comparing our own BBing efforts to FBBs like Johanna: I agree there's no way I can build muscle like Johanna naturally. But that doesn't mean others can't. eg. As a child in school I was just a bag of bones, straight up and down. But other guys had 'mini He-Man' type bodies from day one. Not thru any exercise – just genetics. So projecting your own experience onto others isn't always valid.

    I've talked to Johanna about about her pre-show diet and it is extreme beyond any experience of mine. eg. Drinking practically nothing for the last 2 weeks before contest. And off-season she eats like a horse – masses of veggies too – with an obsessive attention to weights, measures and regularity. Again – way beyond my experience. Who knows what I'd look like if I had her will-power and committment. We'll never know cos I'm too lazy and fond of eating junk.

    Male Pro's on those sites are considered the paramount of body building opinions…I can say with full faith that those select few can tell if a person is taking roids just by looking at a photo.

    I fail to see why these guys should be considered the source of all wisdom. Many have been juicing since very early in their career's, so how are they qualified to say what a gifted natty like Jo can or can't achieve after 15 years of natural training?

    Re the idea that some guys can take roids without any sides. True, but I find women's bodies tend to be more sensitive to the ravages of these drugs. Few women are able to avoid all side effects.

    Finally, what's Jo's motivation for lying about her natural status when she's competing in non-tested competitions like the North Americans? It doesn't give her any advantage. Drugs are widely used and accepted by her competitors. What's her motivation? Is she just a compulsive liar? And why would she start a website called 'Naturally Built' in 2002 if she was quietly juicing all the while? Seems risky to me. She might start exhibiting side effects any day then look like a stupid fraud. Surely it would be better just to do what everyone else does and not mention drugs. Unless she really is natural.

    As Johanna says in her AMG profile:

    "I believe anyone can obtain their desired look naturally through planned nutrition and exercise."

    Actually I don't believe just anyone can, but it's a commendable sentiment – and an inspiration for us all to try.

    in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73304
    jdfan
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    Good points Collector.

    …photos tends to make bodybuilders look bigger.  A good example of this was Siene Silva from American Gladiators.  In the photos by herself, she looked enormous, huge even.  Yet when you put her on a side by side comparison to Hulk Hogan it became quite obvious that she was as tiny as a fairy….

    This photo illustrates your point quite well:

    These girls are small but perfectly formed. Not so hard to believe this could be achieved by natural training and nutrition. Throw in J's sweet feminine voice, perfect skin, good hair and pretty face – and I'm a believer!

    in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73296
    jdfan
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    I don't think it's a conspiracy – more a case of who knows who. The judges can also be swayed by national and local allegiances and the level of support in the audience for a particular girl.

    in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73294
    jdfan
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    Yes, she definitely should have placed higher.  Ah, just noticed I broke a link in the first post, so I'm reposting that plus a new gif animation I cobbled together.

    Nice tricep animation. That vid was shot in 2003. Hard to believe she's been looking so good for so long.

    I think she might be competing at the Canadians in Montreal this weekend – not sure – so don't count on it. She placed 3rd in the MW and masters last year. Here's hoping she can win this year.

    in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73290
    jdfan
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    She came 3rd in the middleweights. Well done Jo!

    Pics:http://www.musculardevelopment.com/browse/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1283

    Once again the judges decision is a mystery to me. J's biceps are twice the size of the 1st and 2nd place girls put together. Her abs, legs, conditioning and shape are the best too. They had it right when they made her competitor number '1'

    in reply to: Johanna Dejager #73288
    jdfan
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    I think she might be competing this weekend at the North Americans – at least she's on the competitors list over at Sioux Country. Haven't seen any new vids of her for a few months so I'm not sure how she's looking or which weight class she'll be in – but if last year was anything to go by, she should be a serious contender for the pro-card.

    Good luck Jo !!

    in reply to: Kim Perez #38312
    jdfan
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    Yes she looks absolutely jaw droppingly huge and beautiful in those latest clips. I saw an interview clip with her recently – she seemed very sweet and intelligent and also had a very nice normal pitch feminine voice. Truely the perfect woman.

    in reply to: Tina Zampa #29784
    jdfan
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    Definately one of my all time favourites. Love that miniskirt (and those huge legs!)
    I also like the way she always smiles and waves at the end of her clips – very cute.
    Fans should check out her website – she's got lots of great clips like that one.

    http://www.tinazampa.com

    jdfan
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    I'd like to see Johanna do it – suprisingly she has never done it on video – so I guess she thinks it looks silly or something – but if her pecs are as mobile as her biceps I imagine it would be quite a sight to behold.

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