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Lingster
KeymasterShe probably made it herself or you'd have heard about it before.
I've told Fett and I'll tell you, Dave, there's a market for your stuff. Not the truly super-hypermuscular stuff, maybe, but the workout girls, the buff chicks, etc.? Absolutely. Cafepress, Zazzle, Printfection.
People buy t-shirts. Lots and lots of t-shirts.
KeymasterKeymasterYeah, I think I uploaded some of these several years ago. It's good stuff.
KeymasterAren't they all just flacks for the game manufacturers?
KeymasterNo one is making an argument to restrict the vote.
KeymasterHmm…. Atlanta NPC Nationals or NYC Big Apple Con? Hard to choose. One week apart, I can't do both…
KeymasterWith respect, you're not seeing what I'm trying to say. There's nothing about European mainstream politics that tries to coerce people into doing something they don't want to do. My argument was that you seem to think you're being magnamimous (sp?) by saying that you won't do it either. That is a given – if you or anyone else here were to put pressure on people, I'd call them fascist without hesitation. The fact remains, though, that you stated that you'd prefer it if less well-educated people (i.e those at the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum) din't vote. This seems a typical US conservative approach – restrict (or at least hankering after the ability to restrict) the vote to those who you feel deserve it or are worthy of it. This is fundamentally undemocratic to my eyes, because it is precisely the excuse that was given by the establishment at the time of women's suffrage. My progressivist philiosophy is very different – I dvocate providing better education to all so that every legal voter is able to make an informed decision.
The GOP is responsible for universal suffrage in the US, decades before it was achieved in the UK.
KeymasterHow is hoping that the less educated don't vote better than improving their education? That seems to me the difference between conservatism and progressivism, and it's why you and I can never agree on matters of politics.
They can do whatever they like. I'm not in the business of pressuring strangers into doing what I think is best – and that's one big difference between America's individualist conservatism and European 'progressivism'.
KeymasterGod forbid the less educated or informed have a say in their government….. ::)
I'm not saying they should be denied the vote, just that I prefer it when they don't bother to show up.
KeymasterHigh turnout is overrated – brings out too many people who don't have any grasp of the issues.
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