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Hmm, I thought it was quite obvious what he was saying.
If it had been obvious I would not have needed to ask for clarification. Just because 2 friends can have abbreviated conversation does not mean you can expect anyone else to decipher your meaning when you do not bother with basic grammar.
Translation:
Yes, it’s a bicep.
Ok, so stating the anatomically obvious… continue.
…but it’s not really a big one or an actual muscular one.
Out of context, this is true. But in context, I posted this thread in the Fandom & Nerd Stuff section. At no point did I draw comparisons between Kate and the fbbs normally discussed in the Female Athletes & Muscular Women section*. My comparison was Kate before training for fight scenes and after. For that actress, it is a very distinct increase of muscle. Particularly considering that her training was not directed at building muscle size, but at learning fight choreography.
That’s just a girl with very low body fat and very puny for a bicep in this forum.
Low body fat, yes. Small for this forum? Generally. Little to no muscle development (as implied)? Untrue.
Here are some photos to illustrate my point for me. I took 3 screen captures of Kate flexing. I adjusted the contrast and brightness where needed to help visibility. On the images that I overlaid Kate’s arm, I scaled and rotated Kate’s arm to match that of the subject in the photo. No image manipulation, enhancement, or reduction was done to Kate’s arm or to any of the pictured subjects.
3 captures of Kate’s arm alone
A woman’s arm with low body fat and small undeveloped bicep
A woman’s arm with low body fat and small developed bicep
A rather well recognised photo of Avril Lavigne who shares body type with Kate Bosworth
Compared to say Kelly Ripa who has actual muscles and works out or Elizabeth Shue.
Compared to Kelly Ripa
Compared to Elizabeth Shue
Due to body type and limb length, it is nearly impossible to scale Kate’s arm properly next to the pictured subjects. But what we are looking for is comparative muscle size, tone, and definition (leanness).
Since Kate’s development came from fight choreography training and not weight training with the specific objective of building muscle size or strength we see that Kate’s triceps are disproportionate in development to her bicep. Comparing Kate’s bicep alone however (her bicep being the subject of the thread), we see that not only is it better developed than we have seen before on Kate, it is equal to or better than the subjects pictured for comparison including Kelly Ripa and Elizabeth Shue. Shue’s arm has far less definition and appears larger due to padding from higher body fat. Shue’s arm is larger due to both body type and tricep development. Ripa’s arm has better tricep development, but like Shue, both lift weights.
*Now for that astrisk reference. I posted a cropped animation in the “Who is” thread and even bumped it with a comment intended to draw out comments disputing the pictured arm development. No one said anything.
This forum exists not simply to talk about female muscle at the pinnacle of size, strength, and development, but to share in our multitudes of appreciation for it large and small (literally).
While you (TC2) and Smitty are entitled to your opinions, you are choosing to present what you say as fact without the bother of backing it up with cited reference when instead you should be taking ownership of your opinions by stating them as opinion.
I know you (TC2) watch the “Who is” thread often enough that while I do not know for a fact that you saw either of the 2 planted posts I made there, I know it is a strong possibility. If you did indeed see it, you had ample opportunity to object there.
I knew when I posted the update, that you (TC2) would most likely reply with a disparagement. But why? What purpose does it serve? Is it because you do not like Kate Bosworth? Or is it something else? It took me a great deal of time to create the clip and animation. Why do you feel the need to effectively devalue the contribution I am making to the community? So you don’t like Kate Bosworth… perhaps you don’t like me. Well just say that. Or better yet, how about following the basic etiquette of when you have nothing nice to say, don’t say anything at all.
If it isn’t a dislike of Kate Bosworth, or of me, then the only purpose I have ever seen for unprovoked negative remarks are when someone is trolling or flame baiting.
As long as you have been a member of the femuscle community, as often as you have had something of value to contribute, why now are you steeped in negativity for it’s own sake?
My Deviant Art Page (old stuff):
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www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenoms/index00.htm
www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/p/phenom_fett/index00.htmBarbara Fletcher the FBB is 4’9. Snooki from the Jersey Shore is also 4’9. If you’re looking for fitness/figure only, Dale Tomita is 5’1 but looks shorter.
Wow, thanks so much for the reply. Honestly, while I was hoping, I did not expect any responses, but I truly welcome the help as this has been a difficult search.
There are many that may be in the height range, but I am looking for a combination of height and body type. So for instance, while Dolly Parton is 4’11”, her body type is wrong. Those giant implants would also obstruct my efforts to correctly identify her key structural points. Observe the image below that I created for this purpose using Olympic gymnast Shannon Miller.
Olympic gymnast Shannon Miller who competed in 1992 in Barcelona at the age of 15, and in 1996 in Atlanta at the age of 19. According to http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/mi/shannon-miller-1.html, her height at competition was 4’10”. I am assuming she was that height at age 15 which is consistent with details provided from an interview at http://celebritybabyscoop.com/2010/01/13/shannon-miller-i-was-intimidated-by-everything-except-being-on-the-balance-beam. In that interview, she mentions a growth spurt to 5’0″ just before competing in 1996. Multiple sources list her adult height at 5’1″.
I could not use 1992 photos as a reference since the build of a child is still under development and differs from the build of an adult. Never mind the fact that I will not use a 15 year old minor as a photo reference for an adult character. Photos from 1996 would be acceptable since she was no longer a minor and at only 1 inch shorter than her final height, her growth spurt would have also ushered in the last of her developmental changes into her adult body type.
I am uncertain what year the photo below is from, but since this is only being used as an example and will not be used as anything but an example for this forum post, I am not worried about determining the year.
As you can see, I have marked key structures like joint placement, neck and torso and limb length, and width of shoulders, ribcage, waist, and pelvis. Head size is another important proportion.
Barbara Fletcher is a good suggestion. Snooki however is completely the wrong body type. WAY too thick and stocky. Plus Snooki just repulses me lol.
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phenoms.deviantart.comMy Booru Gallery (new stuff):
phenoms.booru.orgAlso
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